[ SECRET POST #6064 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6064 ⌋

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[The Last of Us Part II]



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Comments

[fscom]

03. https://i.imgur.com/bZDimQN.jpeg
[The Last of Us Part II]

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, like. I don't know if this is the point you were trying to make, OP, but Joel absolutely earned the way his story ends. And I really appreciated how this sequel told a different story than the previous game.

[tabaqui]

How did he earn it? What did he do that wasn't in the LA series?

[(Anonymous)]

Plenty. But his massacre of the hospital plays out the same across both and that's what I was referring to.

[tabaqui]

Ah, okay.
I dunno, maybe it was different in the game, but I didn't actually care that he killed the people who were trying to kill him at the hospital.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's a pretty bad game. More narratively than gameplay wise, imo.

I was indifferent about Joel's chickens coming home to roost, but I reject Joel and his brother being that relaxed and off-guard around strangers. It was out of character and contrived.

It also bothers me Ellie spontaneously lost her 'echolocation' ability when stalking Abby, but Abby still had hers. It took me out of the game. Not the story, but the actual game. I literally paused the game and wondered why Ellie stumbled around searching for Abby like an NPC. It made no sense.

What did take me out of the story is how Abby could never have that physique under those circumstances. I don't care how stable her settlement was. That build requires so much effort and special conditions to maintain, it's not even funny. I might've bought it if she didn't have other things to do like the survival of not just herself but an entire enclave, but apparently TLoU game makers wanted me to believe Abby had time to do all that and mad lift five days a week, minimum. I was also supposed to believe Abby had access to the calories needed to build and maintain her muscle mass with no problems.

Worst of all I dislike 'I will kill countless minions' protags who don't kill the boss because "insert your inane I've gone too far trope here." It's cliched storytelling that was played out years ago.

Such a disappointment considering how damn near perfect Part 1 is on every level.

[(Anonymous)]

Sooooo....I should play part 1?

OP

[(Anonymous)]

It's damn near perfect, so you'll end up playing more than once.

[(Anonymous)]

Please go outside.

[(Anonymous)]

"What did take me out of the story is how Abby could never have that physique under those circumstances. "

... uh, what? Look, I used to do retail stocking before the pandemic so I had a lot of arm muscle built up. I lost my job more than two years ago when my store closed and I haven't done that level of physical activity since. I still have that arm muscle more than two years later - it hasn't gone away just because I'm not lifting stuff every day.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not that into this conversation, or the game, so I'm not going to argue with very rude people who hyper focused on one point I made, then ignored the rest.

But I will say this: It does take a lot of work for Abby, or anybody, to be that big without putting in a lot of time and effort. And food. Lots of food.

This is the last I'll comment about it here.

Have a nice day.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

No one in this thread was rude. Everyone just disagreed with you.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

And how dare they?

[(Anonymous)]

Muscle absolutely goes away if you don’t work to maintain it. Maybe you’re not doing retail stocking anymore, but if you experienced zero muscle loss you’re doing something else that maintains them. Muscle loss in the average person starts about a week after regular exercise stops.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean I don't know what to tell you because I've been working a desk job since then and I absolutely haven't been doing any sort of lifting/physical activity to try to maintain it. All I know is that the muscle is still there more than two years later despite me doing exactly nothing to try to maintain it.

[(Anonymous)]

You just have those magic muscles that no one else on earth was blessed with.

[(Anonymous)]

Lmao I really, really do not understand the hyperfixation on Abby's build in this game. It's not as if improbably hench male characters don't exist in equally austere environments in other games.

Besides, she's not even that jacked? One of my female subordinates who's really into crossfit is significantly more muscular than Abby, and while sure she hit the gym a lot, she also holds down a full-time job and has plenty of time left over for her husband and kids. You don't need to be pumping iron 24/7.

Also, when did the game ever say those gains were all natty? That's what everyone seems to be assuming when they go off on this, but it's not like the World Zombie-Fighting Federation is going to make her pass a urine test. If I was her I'd take any advantage I could get.

[(Anonymous)]

Bruh you do not have to lift five days a week (that's generally considered to be too much! Four is the responsibile maximum). Two to three is all it takes, and the fact is that the mundane business of survival itself promotes fitness.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't played this game and have no horse in this race, but... apparently it's perfectly fine for make video game characters to look like Chris Hemsworth at his buffest no matter their circumstances, but if a woman is muscular it ruins the gaming experience?

Assuming this woman is naturally muscular, it's not that wild, especially if she was training pre apocalypse. Some women - believe it or not - naturally are strong and have thick arms and strength training will only increase that. I know a woman who did pole dancing for an hour 3× a week who ended up with arms not dissimilar to Abby's, not eating any special protein high diet. If you consider the heavy lifting and arm exercise survival involves - chopping and moving wood, hunting and dragging animals for food, and physically moving anything we currently rely on equipment and/or other people for - plus any exercise she might do recreationally, it's not that crazy of a physique. Especially in video game fantasy land where some are hand-wabed away anyway.

If you don't believe me, look up Strongwoman Donna Moore. She has a similar physique to Abby, just taken to the extreme since she is an elite athlete. Check out those arms - way bigger than Abby's. It's not hard to imagine a fit woman with the potential to have a physique and musculature like Donna Moore being buff in the apocalypse.

[(Anonymous)]

The game has biologically impossible zombies, but it's the buff woman who's unrealistic and breaks immersion. Mhm, sure, okay.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for spectacularly proving OP's point, lol

[dantesspirit]

Joel earned his ending. Maybe he shouldn't have been so relaxed, but he definitely earned his earning.

You don't have to lift weights 5 days a week to be that fit and muscular.

You simply need to survive under harsh conditions that require a lot of physical work such as hauling wood, or deer carcasses(or what have you) in from the woods, chopping wood, digging/ turning soil for crops, etc.

History has shown us that sort of physique is indeed possible on minimum food, as long as that food is dense in calories and protein (see, as an example, the lumberjacks, or miners of the 1800s/1900s, whose main diet was salt pork and beans.)

Ellie suddenly losing her ability makes no sense, I agree.

Sometimes it's best not to think too deeply about things. It is just a game after all. Games are meant to be enjoyed.

[(Anonymous)]

I’ve never played the games so I have no horse in this race, but is she the only character with muscle like that? Because I do agree that the average person irl does not have muscles like hers without a lot of work and food, and especially for women that shit is hard to maintain, but if she’s just the lone beefy lady in a sea of beefy men I don’t see a problem.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, you're not wrong. I was both surprised and unsurprised by the levels of mental gymnastics people did to deify their video game proxy father after the ending of the first game was a pretty resounding condemnation of his character and a guarantee that his relationship with Ellie was going to be destroyed forever as soon as she found out.

I think it was kind of mediocre as a game (but so was the first one, gameplay-wise, with a bog-standard plot albeit with an above-standard delivery) but the mass hysteria over the logical continuation of the plot and themes (and the trans character!!! and the muscular woman!!!!!!! ohhhh noooooooooooo) exceeded my lowest expectations and then some.