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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-08-17 05:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #6068 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6068 ⌋

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[Pâquerette Down the Bunburrows]



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(Anonymous) 2023-08-17 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for others, but I like Pride and Prejudice because it's funny, and I love all of the commentary on human behavior and what motivates people to behave as they do. I love seeing the dynamic of how the Bennet household works. I like the sense of sisterhood between all the Bennet girls, functional and dysfunctional.

Mostly I like how well Austen has captured this admittedly small sphere that she knew well herself, and I like being able to get that glimpse into a culture and time period that's very different from my own. I tend to like books that do that in general, though. Another example is Elizabeth Gaskell's North and South as well as Cranford.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-17 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Jane Austen's writing is, overall, pretty undramatic. Her plots are fairly naturalistic.

Her genius, IMO, was in her ability to observe people and society and then breezily use those observations as the material for her stories in ways that rang true and felt astute without being overly self-serious. The authenticity and coherency of Austen's characterizations is insanely consistent. It's rare to encounter a Jane Austen character that doesn't make me go, "Oh god, THIS guy--I know this guy," or, "Oh it's THAT lady; yeah, she would do that."

Basically, in Austen's novels, the plot does not drive the characters. The characters ARE the plot; they generate the plot by existing in the society they're in, and conducting themselves as they are inclined to do.

I love Austen's work and think she was an extraordinarily gifted writer, but I can see how her work might not be everyone's cup of tea.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-17 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

This is exactly my thoughts On Jane Austin's writing as well, I love most of her books but it's because she executes her characters so well that I find them a joy to read. It won't be everyone's cup of tea but that's fine.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-17 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
This is an excellent way to describe her appeal. Her works feel like snapshots of time, place, and culture, and that's largely because the characters are so true-to-life.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-17 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, pretty much this.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-18 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
+4

Austen as a writer is on the side of precision, delicacy, smallness, naturalism, observation, minimalism, realism.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-18 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
That's such a lovely way of putting it, thank you. And I DON'T like Austen. Because it's exactly what it is, not my cup of tea

(Anonymous) 2023-08-18 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
As an Austen lover, all of this. If that kind of writing does not resonate with you that's perfectly okay, but it's the reason I love her writing.

I wish a lot of people weren't so... "If you don't like X classic/classic author you're a troglodyte hdu!"

Like... it's okay not to like things as long as you're not a dick to people who do like it, and vice versa.

I've tried to read LOTR like three times now and couldn't slog through it. That's not a character defect OR an insult to the books. It just is what it is.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-17 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I don’t like any of Jane Austen’s books. I respect her place in the literary world and I understand why her books are so beloved, but they’re all boring to me.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-18 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
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I always feel nervous when telling others I find Austen's works boring.

Like, I admire the legacy of Jane Austen and her works, especially because she died so young and her small number of published novels have carried her legacy on for so long and have appealed to so many.
But the movies/series I watched based on her novels and the novels of hers I've read...for the most part have bored me.
Pride and Prejudice being the one I tried to give a chance to the most, too.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-18 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I think like the anon above said, it's because there is a plot in some respect, but it's more that the characters carry the story, and if that style of writing isn't what grabs you, nothing is going to make you like them lol, and that's okay.

I say this as someone who has copies of JA books from 1883 and would probably murder for a first edition of them.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-17 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the snark. P&P is just funny. I also love Jane Eyre, but I'm not gonna read it when I want a scintillating take down of society. I'm also not gonna read P&P when I want to be excited by a possibly murderous ghost in the attic.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-08-17 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
gonna be real with you. if you found jane eyre only reasonably entertaining, then you probably like the more gothic style. austen is not that. she's a slice of life writer not a soap writer.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-18 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I said something along these lines in the original thread, but to repeat it: Jane Eyre and Austen's work are from different times and genres. There is no reason liking one would mean you like the other. And that's okay!

(Though you may potententially be interested in Northanger Abbey as it essentially a parody of Gothic romances like Jane Eyre)

(Anonymous) 2023-08-18 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
People like different things, gasp! JA is funny and that's what I like about her. She can get more snark into one sentence than most people can into an entire quippy scene. But she isn't everyone's cuppa.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-18 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to wonder how seemingly everyone in fandom was an Austen fan, especially P&P. I forced myself through all of her boring work and endured a couple movie adaptations. And I discovered that most people in fandom don’t know anything about Austen’s works except one or two movie adaptations or maybe also read P&P. But you’ll see some analysis about it that makes the commenter look very informed but if you Google their exact words you’ll find they just ripped that off someone else.

That’s not to say no one loves her work or that novel in particular. And we have some überfans here in FS that can kind of make you think more people love her/the novel than is representative of fandom as a whole.

It’s just one of those things that so many people thought they were required to love, likely because fandom has a large chunk of academia embedded.

It’s perfectly ok not to like P&P, you don’t even have to like Austen. The only issue I have is the people who assume everyone adores Austen and never reads anything else and lives to talk about the book and dream of a perfect film adaptation. Usually those are the people who are only pretending anyway but we do have one true fan here in FS who is like this, but they’re pretty easy to ignore.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-20 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Wtf is this weird gate keeping of liking P&P

Just because it annoys you that lots of people like something you don't doesn't mean you need to invent a system of dividing 'real' fans from fake ones

It's okay for people to really like something and not be able to write an academic essay on it, okay

(Anonymous) 2023-08-21 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Reading Jane Austen is like watching clever paint dry.