[ SECRET POST #6068 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6068 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Pâquerette Down the Bunburrows]



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Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 11 secrets from Secret Submission Post #867.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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01. https://i.imgur.com/neLEJ8V.png

[(Anonymous)]

The easy monetization of fan activities started here.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who doesn't have a credit card (not in the US, I don't NEED one here), it's a blessing cause now I can buy stuff from Etsy (well, I used to buy more back when there wasn't a ton of drop shipping going on) or other sites where ppl sell their arts & crafts (fandom and non-fandom).

[(Anonymous)]

That, or Ko-Fi.

[(Anonymous)]

Hustle culture is the worst.

[(Anonymous)]

If your subculture's commitment to amateurism can't survive the creation of easy means of payment, it can't have been that strong a commitment in the first place.

Frankly the cult of amateurism has always been overstated in fandom - see for instance the whole concept of "semi-pro" and related arguments in SF fandom. Amateurism is a good ideal for some people but it isn't a way of life. FIJAGDH.

[(Anonymous)]

Is monetization a real problem? Seems like a lot of people are still contributing free fanworks for others to enjoy.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like fandomsecrets anons get a bit way too annoyed over the 10 out 100+ people who happen to place their fanworks behind paywalls. There is still way more free stuff, someone decided to make a PayPal? Don't pay it, I don't and I'm not even against it, and I still look at fandom stuff daily.

[(Anonymous)]

TBH I generally agree.

It's just like the internet in itself. Hobbyists finding new spaces to connect and discuss similar interests morphs into a grifty hellscape where you spend too much time scoping out others to see if their time is worth your attention.
Are they a hard working hobbyist/gifted talent or are they just another grifter finding a new area to try out their get-rich-schemes?

But because this is the reality of how fandom culture is now, that doesn't mean I whole heartedly turn my back to online fandom culture or am going to judge actual creators with a passion for their hobby that they may have been able to turn into a career for monetizing their creations.

But I am highly aware how capitalism is continuing to fuck up the world and communities.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't disagree that Paypal made the internet and fandom worse.

But my impression is that the internet was built with taxpayer money and what used to be public infrastructure, and the government then sold it off to companies that are trying to extract a profit from every angle. Back in the day, overwhelmingly everything online was free. Hosting. Email. Chat. IRC. And overwhelmingly most of the backend programs that made stuff possible were, also. Even the flashy stuff from later on, in defiance of clumsy attempts to monetize - the best DVD decrypters and rippers and burners were just available to everyone.

Fandom has survived the buying-out and mass destruction of so many things we used to rely on. The people who stopped maintaining great free tools because they were threatened with jail, the constant threats of fines and prison for those brave souls running torrent trackers and shadow libraries, the corporate takeovers and mass-deletions of sites that caused migration after migration. They threw everything they could reach in the garbage, erased our accounts, and still people went elsewhere and found each other and rebuilt. Not once but so many times.

But every time something that people used to be able to put up online for free is blocked into "now that's a paid service, no upload without our paid plan," some of the people who were here, before, can't afford to share with the world. I share your loathing for online payment processors, but I think the gradual extinction of places where you're not being outright forced to pay rent for creating and contributing is worse.

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[(Anonymous)]

I can't speak for others, but I like Pride and Prejudice because it's funny, and I love all of the commentary on human behavior and what motivates people to behave as they do. I love seeing the dynamic of how the Bennet household works. I like the sense of sisterhood between all the Bennet girls, functional and dysfunctional.

Mostly I like how well Austen has captured this admittedly small sphere that she knew well herself, and I like being able to get that glimpse into a culture and time period that's very different from my own. I tend to like books that do that in general, though. Another example is Elizabeth Gaskell's North and South as well as Cranford.

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Jane Austen's writing is, overall, pretty undramatic. Her plots are fairly naturalistic.

Her genius, IMO, was in her ability to observe people and society and then breezily use those observations as the material for her stories in ways that rang true and felt astute without being overly self-serious. The authenticity and coherency of Austen's characterizations is insanely consistent. It's rare to encounter a Jane Austen character that doesn't make me go, "Oh god, THIS guy--I know this guy," or, "Oh it's THAT lady; yeah, she would do that."

Basically, in Austen's novels, the plot does not drive the characters. The characters ARE the plot; they generate the plot by existing in the society they're in, and conducting themselves as they are inclined to do.

I love Austen's work and think she was an extraordinarily gifted writer, but I can see how her work might not be everyone's cup of tea.

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[Pâquerette Down the Bunburrows]

[meadowphoenix]

what kind of puzzles are these?

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[meadowphoenix]

whenever i see myself or my relationships painfully reflected on screen or in books, i sorta use it as a jumping off point to see if there's anything i want to change in my own life, and usually that gives me enough distance to enjoy it, because..well they're not me then.

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[(Anonymous)]

ngl I have no hope after the 2nd movie, I just wish there was at least a couple of serious moments with him.

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[(Anonymous)]

What is Largo Winch from?

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[(Anonymous)]

On a sadder note, I remember the trail of rose petals that were left on Rooster Teeth's offices the day after Monty Oum's passing. Feelings towards the company aside, I think his was the only celebrity death that's actually hit me hard, so the trail of petals was a beautiful tribute to the animator. No one ever learned who did it.

You said it was a good and funny thing, OP, but like someone said: It's always good to do stuff. Even if nobody ever learns you did it, the realization you did something that big for a work you like is already something to be proud of. I'm happy for you, OP.

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NS, NF, etc.

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General comments:

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Where/when

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If you could live any place and any time within the 19th or 29thC then where and when would it be?

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