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⌈ Secret Post #6068 ⌋

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[Pâquerette Down the Bunburrows]



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Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

What relationships/situations in media hit different now vs years ago (or when you first experienced it)? Good, bad or otherwise.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Young me watching the A:tLA fandom go apeshit over Kataang vs. Zutara: This is a legit argument. *makes popcorn*

Me now: She’s 14. They're 12 and 16. Both pairings are squicky.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, hold on, you're squicked by 16 and 14?

NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Like... when I was a sixteen year old, I can't imagine dating a fourteen year old... but, at fourteen, I would have absolutely crushed on a sixteen year old. I didn't ship that particular ship just because I didn't read their interactions as EITHER of them being actually romantically interested in each other at all, but the age thing... /shrug

For either ship, once they're grown up, two years isn't even a gap. Like if I dated someone two years younger than me NOW, I would just think 'yeah we're the same age'.

Re: NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I had a very different experience at that age. 14 to 17 year olds were kind of lumped together, bound together by school, work, and the various youth-oriented hang-outs in the area. 18 is where the age difference really started to feel like a thing, likely because the 18-year-olds were either in college, getting ready to be, or starting "real" work.

If you're comfortable sharing, when were you in your teens? For me, it was late 90s. I feel like that might be a factor.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Ngl I still find ship-wars funny, because people get so heated about nothing, it's hilarious.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Troll; nobody grows into thinking two year age differences are squicky. And use of the word squicky shows you're to old to really believe that anti nonsense.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Use of the word squicky also is evidence they're not an anti. They can find it squick without yucking anyone else's yum. That's the point of the word squick.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Am definitely more often on the side of the "annoying" adults in teen stories now (unless ofc they're comically unreasonable/evil).

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god this

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

I read a book called This Lullaby when I was a teenager and I thought the main character was insufferable. She was kinda mean and had no filter and I didn’t understand why the guy she ends up dating was even into her. I read it again when I was older and her character made a lot more sense to me. She doesn’t have the best role models for a romantic relationship and she’s seen how life treats people who are nice. I still thought she was a little hard-hearted, but I like her better now.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man, I loved This Lullaby when I was a teenager, but I wonder if I would have the opposite to your reaction now that I'm older. I don't remember thinking Remy was whiny, but maybe as an adult I would. 😅

Re: Inspired by #4

[kaijinscendre]

Me watching Neverending Story as a kid: The horse dying is the saddest thing ever.

Me watching Neverending Story as an adult: They look like big strong hands...😭

Also, when I watched LOTR when they originally came out, I was huge into Aragorn. On recent rewatches, I love Faramir so much!

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed, Faramir is just a cool dude. I enjoy the extended version scenes with him.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

The "they look like big, strong hands" bit is so fucking potent. How dare it be that devastating, honestly.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

I'm so much more irritated by Jack in Romancing the Stone than I was.

My brain honestly has no idea what to do with Big now.

However, contrary to how some people now feel about Ferris Bueller's Day Off, I absolutely still think Rooney was in the wrong. As a matter of fact, it's worse now. Nine absences are a lot, but ten excused absences were allowed at my school at the time. The man is obsessed and it's creepy, especially since he talked with Mrs. Bueller and that should have been it. Instead, the man went out, put his hands on someone he presumed to be Ferris, knocked out the dog by force, and broke into the Bueller home (scaring the crap out Jeanie). The whole Jeffery Jones thing does not help.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

I have debated a few times in recent years about watching Romancing the Stone since I haven’t seen it in almost 40 years but I suspect it won’t be a good thing for me and this kinda confirms it.

Re: Ferris - I feel the same. In my case I know that Jeffrey Jones is the main reason for it. But even as a kid it was weird to me how he was fixated on Ferris. The school was too big for one smoothtalking kid to be that big of a deal and he wasn’t even a sports star.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

But the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, and dickheads all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

YEAH
Like, Jeannie has every right to be pissed off about her brother getting away with murder, that's a separate issue. But, even she comes down on his side when the ABSOLUTELY UNHINGED principle shows up at their home, after speaking to their mom. Like that man's just not right.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

As a teen I used to listen to Into the Woods (musical) and think, Oh, it's all a clever, humorous allegory!

Had the chance to see a live production recently and was left stunned and weeping. It's not even a parable, it's STRAIGHT UP REAL LIFE.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

A local theater is putting on ITW right now, and a lot of their advertising is like, "fairy tale fun for the whole family!" And I'm always thinking about how devastated I was the first time I saw that show at 13. 😭

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Kid me watching Leon: The Professional: "Mathilda was saved by Leon, such beauty such tragedy"

Adult me watching it pre-#metoo: "ew why did the movie protray Mathilda's crush on Leon so creepy?"

Post-#metoo, I felt like Jean Reno's portrayal of Leon was what kept the film from being outright all around creepy AF.
I could sense the deep love and care Leon grew to have for Mathilda but it felt more paternal. Like, I imagine Luc Busson was aiming for, "this is a romantic love story" but Jean Reno instead played Leon's reaction to Mathilda's crush as it not translating, he doesn't ever see her in a sexual way (but the film and camera sure do 🤢)

Re: Inspired by #4

[kamino_neko]

According to Besson's wife at the time, Maïwenn le Besco, Léon was based on their relationship (le Besco was 15 when they started going together, and 17 when they married), sooo...

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

You're part of the reason so many teenagers these days are full of terror and self-loathing for their completely normal adolescent crushes on adults.

Re: Inspired by #4

[(Anonymous)]

Nah. Sometimes the criticism is warranted (see the comment above yours... ftr, Besson is 16 years her senior. If you can't do the math, that means she was 15 and he was 31). Yes, we all know it's fiction but authors/creators do sometimes push things from real life into their stories. It may be a gray area but that doesn't mean we aren't allowed to criticize or even question it.

And if you'll notice, ayrt takes issue with the portrayal of the crush, not the fact the girl has a crush at all. They don't blame the girl for having a crush. They blame Besson for trying to make it out as a romance between equal partners when one of the people is a child and there's clearly a power imbalance.