[ SECRET POST #6068 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6068 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Pâquerette Down the Bunburrows]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

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"Effort went into making this" does not mean it's morally defensible to demand money for doing it. When I make things, I want them to get to people who want them. Not just to the narrow subset of humans who have money to throw around. If you're to old or too young or too unemployed or whatever to have someone paying you, but you appreciate fic or art or music or anything else that can be passed around on the internet, you are my intended audience. And that used to be true of fandom as a whole.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is though that it's not just "effort went into making this" in a lot of cases, it's also "money went into producing this" and usually, people who sell merch at cons or over the internet are barely breaking even with production cost. I mean, sure, go ahead and get pretty fandom enamel pins made for hundreds of dallars and just pass them out like candy at the next con if that's your thing (and your priviledged financial situation that allows it) but most people who make merch aren't that lucky (and they also don't exactly rake in millions).

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry, but bull-fucking-shit. The people who show up at cons with hundreds of prints and keychains and buttons are 100% expecting to make big profits off that shit.

[(Anonymous)]

And that STILL wouldn't entitle you to get their stuff for free.

[(Anonymous)]

Where is anyone saying people should be able to get that stuff for free?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I was responding to the argument you made before, which was that "effort" in fandom should be rewarded with money. Now you're trying to shift to "money went into these enamel pins, so I should charge for them."

And my problem is, a decade or two ago, if I wanted to avoid people badgering me about fanmerch-selling I had zero interest in, all I had to do was skip events with vendor's tables. While the online spaces where fans hung out were overflowing with free tutorials and people who had tons of experience making all kinds of stuff, and were happy to teach and learn and be well away from whatever they did or didn't do professionally.

At that point, if you had more money than time, there might be someone who would take money, and if you had the interest in knowing how it was done, fandom had your back. That seems like a much fairer choice to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Except I was not the one making that comment and if you wanted to reply to that you should have replied to that comment. And yes, money goes into making products, why is this so hard to grasp? Enamel pins for example aren't something you can just make for yourself easily, no matter how many free tutorials you watch. And again, I know you pretend it's not the case but most sellers don't actually make a ton of money with their products. They try, of course, but it's not like the vast majority could just quit their day job.
And again, by you logic, nobody should ever be allowed to sell stuff they learned to make through free tutorials. That's really stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

And again, by you logic, nobody should ever be allowed to sell stuff they learned to make through free tutorials.

If they're selling stuff featuring intellectual property that isn't theirs, then no, they should not be allowed to sell it. I don't see how this is hard.

Make your own original enamel pins that don't have fandom characters on them and sell those.