[ SECRET POST #6068 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6068 ⌋

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[Pâquerette Down the Bunburrows]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If your subculture's commitment to amateurism can't survive the creation of easy means of payment, it can't have been that strong a commitment in the first place.

Frankly the cult of amateurism has always been overstated in fandom - see for instance the whole concept of "semi-pro" and related arguments in SF fandom. Amateurism is a good ideal for some people but it isn't a way of life. FIJAGDH.

[(Anonymous)]

You're confusing "doesn't take money for their fanwork" with "amateur." I know plenty of actual professional artists who draw fanart, they just don't sell any of the fan stuff they do.

[(Anonymous)]

Was just going to say - this.

[(Anonymous)]

I think people don't realize, for most people there is no commitment or idea as fandom as a "must be purely non-commercial". Fandom is just enjoying a work, and whether or not they make money off of it is a completely separate and unrelated factor.
There is no commitment to be broken.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, sorry. For a lot of us who went from knowing nothing in a particular field to being able to do sophisticated, professionally relevant things, and owe that to the generosity of others, fandom being non-commercial is a matter of not charging (here) for skills that we got free of charge. It's paying a debt forward.

[(Anonymous)]

So if someone learned how to make soaps or how to crochet from free online tutorials they're not allowed to sell those things they make either by your logic lol

[(Anonymous)]

I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about and that builds on my point. There is no singular "fandom" for which to pay forward.

My experience was not the same as yours. I have not built any amazing skills from talking about bands with my friends and drawing pretty boys. If I decided one day to sell some prints of those drawings I would have nothing to "pay forward", I have no debt to my friends for simply being my fandom friends. No one taught me anything, my friends and I just doodle together sometimes.

There are plenty of people like this outside your circle. There are people younger than me, who have no idea about what I've been doing, or my history. We are separate groups, with separate cultures despite all being "fandom". They own nothing to me as people not part of my community.

Even to people which may have learned from me (I've had beginner artist copy my art), if they they then sold future art with their new skills, I would not care for the reasons you do (I do think that over commercialization is bad, but I don't care about hypothetical "debt".)