[ SECRET POST #6069 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6069 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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05. [SPOILERS for WFYO]




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07. [SPOILERS for Chibi Vampire, and for Blood and Chocolate]




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08. [SPOILERS for Thirsty]




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09. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil: Death Island movie and Resident Evil: Infinite Darkness]




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10. [WARNING for discussion of ageism (per OP's note)]




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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #867.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm someone who dislikes both(personally, you do you OP) so I find the notion that people are suddenly okay with it if it's a TV show... weird. Like I can enjoy biopics or 'loosely based on real life' shows/movies, but any ability to ship things in those media shuts off because I know they're real people and I'm just not into it.

OFMD is the most recent one, I didn't know that was based on real people to begin with(I don't know much about pirate history) and when I did find out my ability to ship anything shut off. I still like the show but it's a solid no to fandom stuff on my end because they were real people, even though the show is wacky to the point of fantasy.

[(Anonymous)]

for what its worth, OFMD is barely an accurate depiction of the pirates the characters are based on.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh I know, it's just a personal mental block and I still enjoy the show and think it's fun, I just won't be engaging with any fandom stuff for it because my brain takes a 'no thank you' approach to it. It's not a deliberate choice on my end, it's just me. xD

[(Anonymous)]

+1, I find fictionalised biopics etc. of still-living people to be much squickier than fic RPF, and tabloid RPF (which they are presenting as true) to be vastly worse than either. Historical biopic about events involving people who are still living? Okay. Total fiction based on real life events? Also okay. But stuff like The Crown is gross, and I am in no way a royalist.

[(Anonymous)]

OFMD is the most recent one, I didn't know that was based on real people to begin with(I don't know much about pirate history) and when I did find out my ability to ship anything shut off. I still like the show but it's a solid no to fandom stuff on my end because they were real people, even though the show is wacky to the point of fantasy.

I'm not judging, you can be turned off for whatever reason - but the show makes no attempt at historical accuracy whatsoever, and the real people it's verrrrry loosely based on have all been dead for more than 300 years! How do you feel about, like, Shakespeare's historical plays, or anything set in the 1800s where Queen Victoria is mentioned or ? Are you really not willing to do any historical fiction canons at all if long-dead real people are in it?

[(Anonymous)]

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I'm not judging, you can be turned off for whatever reason - but the show makes no attempt at historical accuracy whatsoever, and the real people it's verrrrry loosely based on have all been dead for more than 300 years! How do you feel about, like, Shakespeare's historical plays, or anything set in the 1800s where Queen Victoria is mentioned or ? Are you really not willing to do any historical fiction canons at all if long-dead real people are in it?

[(Anonymous)]

As I said: I can watch and enjoy those pieces of media, but I won't be able to ship anything from them because I know the people were real no matter how far removed in history that may be. It's just a personal thing and I don't judge others if they do, it's just not for me.

[(Anonymous)]

Biopics, for example, are a form of pro RPF. Fic of that biopic is one step removed from that. No matter how hard the original canon may push the "based on a true story" angle, as long as it's not a documentary (and even more so if it's clearly inaccurate and openly disputed), any fanfic of it is "fic based on someone else's fictional work/portrayals/interpretations/script," just like every other non-RPF fic is.

The people in that biopic can be treated as fictional characters; that's how people write fic of them without it being RPF. Those people writing fic aren't claiming their fic is of the real person, it's fic of that particular biopic's fictional version of that person.

Seems pretty simple to me?

[(Anonymous)]

apples and pears. a wildly inaccurate biopic about Zuckerberg or Oppenheimer or even Anne Bolyn is, on some level, not equivalent with writing hockey players transforming into vampires and having kinky gay sex in a coffee shop. are they both fictional takes on real people? yes, but that's about the only place they match.

but to be fair, I'm not into biopics that are borderline fantasy anyway, nor am I into RPF. maybe for someone who voraciously consumes "based on a true story" soap opera dramas, the line between the two is far more blurry. it just seems disengenous to ask why someone doesn't like RPF (or RPS usually) but can still watch Oppenheimer.

[(Anonymous)]

This secret goes well with the last one, LOL!

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly find sensationalist movies based on VERY recent tragedies to be more tasteless than the majority of RPF that you can find on AO3 (or at least the kinds that I've have been reading, which are mostly AUs).

[(Anonymous)]

+1,000,000

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I don't mind RPF of any kind all that much although I don't find most celebrity stuff all that interesting, but there is very one clear, obvious line.

If they're a historical figure who is long dead, they're not going to be coming across fic of themselves and being made uncomfortable by it. Historical fiction about people who really lived once and don't anymore to me is a completely different genre than fic about currently living famous people.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure all arguments about how one kind of fanwork is virtuous in comparison to another are bullshit. The only use I have for such talk is to know which pretentious, moralizing blowhards to stay away from.

Years in fandom have taught me that it can all be glorious, and I don't turn down any genre when the summary has convinced me there's a story I want to read. I'm sorry when RPF writers attract social shit, but people who make a big, loud show of avoiding their work are mostly punishing themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, apparently RPF is so much worse than, say, The Crown, for... reasons, I guess. Because it's not like it was ever meant to be taken as truth (except for how it is) and it's not like the real people portrayed ever protested anything in those portrayals (except for how they have).

I read RPF and I'm fine with The Crown existing, but I think anyone arguing that they are two totally different things is fooling themselves. I think that anyone writing biopics that dramatize the people involved is writing Real Person Fic.