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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-08-31 05:58 pm

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NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-09-01 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Neurological disorders are not mental illnesses. And calling them that implies there is a treatment and possibly even a cure. The fact is that mental illnesses can be treated and often cured but neurological disorders can only be managed at best. It’s why that disgusting puzzle piece for autism is a widely regarded as a hate symbol.
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Re: NAYRT

[personal profile] philstar22 2023-09-01 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, not exactly a mental illness. But they are a disability. They are a kind of illness. It is sad that they aren't treatable. But it wouldn't be wrong to treat it if there was a treatment.

DA

(Anonymous) 2023-09-01 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
The reason there is so much debate about whether they things like ADHD are an illness or disability is because unlike say, cancer (something undebatably an illness that will kill you no matter what unless it's cured), everything that makes ADHD a problem comes down to social constructs, the way society is built to best accommodate brains without ADHD.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-09-01 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
everything that makes ADHD a problem comes down to social constructs

I'm sorry, but bullshit. Expecting people to show up at 6 PM when you make a dinner reservation at a restaurant for 6 PM isn't a "social construct" because if the concept of time didn't exist then no one would ever be able to do anything as a group if people just showed up for things whenever they felt like it.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-09-01 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
NARYT

everything that makes ADHD a problem comes down to social constructs, the way society is built to best accommodate brains without ADHD.

I hear this a lot in relation to ASD as well, and I feel it oversimplifies the issue. While with neurodivergence of any sort there are cultural/social components, some aspects will be issues even without any social aspects being included.

(Inattention when making dinner alone comes to mind. It's possible to burn something or even cut yourself opening a package. While I have found that my ADHD diagnosis was in fact in error, I have cut myself with a butter knife due to inattention, so I can see how this can cause issues outside of social situations.)

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-09-01 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Losing your keys because you set them down somewhere and forgot where you put them is a problem. Having to throw out an entire bag of perishable groceries because you set them down on the counter and forgot to put them into the fridge so they sat out overnight is a problem. Setting off the smoke alarm because you put dinner on the stove and then got distracted by something else is a problem. Arriving 45 minutes late for a flight is a problem.

None of those things have cultural/social components to them.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-09-01 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Ah thank you, I wasn't thinking of disorders vs illnesses as separate things, that does make sense. :)