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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-09-15 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #6097 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6097 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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05. [SPOILERS for Good Omens season 2]




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(Anonymous) 2023-09-16 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, wouldn't say the two things are comparable. Crowley might have been the one to more blatantly put what they could have into words, but the entirety of S2 Aziraphale was very much trying to make *it* happen (obviously never addressing it directly because old habits die hard), and I'd argue that the way he tells Crowley "I need you!" in those last fifteen minutes is just as weighty as Crowley's whole confession. Not to mention the foundations laid down by S1 in making it clear they are both very much in love with each other.

(and on an aside, I to this day I still genuinely cannot understand how anybody could interpret S1 Aziracrow as anything but blatantly in love? Like I don't mean to sound snarky, I literally cannot wrap my head around the concept of someone seeing the way they act around each other, how they look at each other, lines like "You go too fast for me", and go "Yes, they are only friends, no romantic love to see here!"

And I say this as an acearo who had to be smacked across the face by people confessing their interest to me my entire life because I am THAT blind, apparently, kjdshjkhfsd)

Whereas Castiel's confession and how Supernatural subsequently ended was just....... You know. There's a reason that scene was meme'd to (super)hell and back, methinks :°D

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-09-16 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that S1 is also pretty blatant about showing the love in their actions, but since they don't directly admit it (to paraphrase Crowley, they've spent their entire existence pretending it's not there) I do not consider the ship itself canon in S1. The history of TV is rife with pairings, queer and otherwise, that audiences see and the actors leaned into, but which were never officially canon.

I considered Aziracrow to be one of those until proven otherwise, partially because in the 30 years between the book and the TV show, I never heard Pratchett or Gaiman outright endorse a romantic reading. I know Gaiman's been calling Aziraphale and Crowley a love story since S1, but as seen in the show, they haven't fully admitted it even to themselves until the end of S2.

As for the Destiel bit, I'm not saying it's as satisfying, or even as well written. The memes seem well deserved, and Spanish dub nonwithstanding, Dean's feelings are much more ambiguous than Aziraphale's. I still feel there's something comparable in two long-running fandoms bringing a fan favorite ship into the canon in some capacity.