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[ SECRET POST #6098 ]

⌈ Secret Post #6098 ⌋

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[Fandom: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]

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I don't read comics much so I didn't know about this but yeah, this is a good one: escalating Rules of Engagement hero who actually sticks to them? Is pretty admirable. As opposed to a hero whose Strict Moral Code seems more self-serving (to their own conscience, to their own ego) than anything.

I only go to church so I can sing and nobody can stop me on account of how bad I am. I think I am doing religion wrong.

I only joined the RAF because I loved the Angel Interceptors from that old Captain Scarlet puppet show, those girls were my heroes.

Secret not due to lack of patriotism, but because I'm a guy!

The older I get the more and more disillusioned I am with non-lethal violence heroes. At least, in shows for any demographic older than for kids. It feels like trying to have your cake and eat it too in the most childish possible way: to get your Cool Action Scenes but not have to Feel Bad about them, when in fact any injury that is disabling for any length of time (i.e., so the heroes can "leave the battle" safely and move on to the next, with a room full of groaning/unconscious opponents) could be permanent or fatal. Head trauma that results in unconsciousness for more than a second or two is likely to cause brain damage. Falls of only a few feet can and have killed people: "knocked them off the building" to put them out of the fight = a bunch of people killed or paralyzed at the bottom of the building. Even subduals can kill if someone puts pressure on an airway; a hero who refuses to use guns and insists on using fists out of some kind of code in any remotely realistic setting is leaving a path of killed and severely maimed henchmen in their path all the same.

It's even worse when it's pretty obvious that the henchmen do die, as there's no way they could have possibly survived (e.g., Aang knocking enemy soldiers in full armour into an arctic ocean) then having some kind of "crisis of conscience" about doing the same to a named character lmao. And the previous is framed as "it doesn't count if he didn't mean it" (even though his actions were the cause and death the foreseeable result by any reasonable person) or just, forgotten about entirely.

This is self-soothing cartoon logic for people who want to see violence without the consequences of violence. I'd much rather see a hero who tries to avoid violence if possible, engages in it only as a last resort, then uses force proportionate to the threat when it is, unfortunately, necessary, knowing that any and all of it could be lethal even if that is not the intent, where the rules of engagement apply to henchmen and bosses alike.

Yeah, but as soon as you say the edgelord writers and directors start planning the story to railroad the character down murder street. It is tunnel vision, all they can think of is constructing the story so that they get to the "necessary" murder as fast as possible.

They do say people get more intolerant and right wing as they get older.

The thing that is killing FS isn't the obscure fandoms, or the controversies, or even the terfy shitposts, they are just unpleasant to read, the thing that is killing us are the people who respond to each and every comment they disgree with by screaming "troll" instead of taking the time to explain why they disagree. Stop it, please. Engage your damn brains.

I miss fandom from the nineties.

I'd rather go to Cackles than Hogwarts.

[note for Secret Maker, that is Worst Witch fandom and Harry Potter]

Dear Hollywood, why can't you make a Franchise out of Louise Cooper's "Indigo" books? Just for me, please?
Sincerely yrs, a whiny fangirl.

I feel like revelling in violence committed upon others guilt-free without considering the consequences is more of a right-wing move, but you're certainly free to disagree.

Ohhh, are you the same anon from below trying to defend the racism troll? lolbye

Yeah, Mando's music was great. During really bad eps of The Mandalorian, I was glad I at least had the end theme to look forward to.

My latest fandom's latest adaptation is finally getting a dvd release. I'm excited for myself, because I still prefer physical media, but also because part of me hopes it might get more people into the fandom.

Which is ridiculous, because modern fandom is so internet dependent that basically no one who doesn't know how to stream and/or pirate a show would know how to find its online fandom.

DA

For what it's worth, I agree with you.

Don't worry about it, OP. You just attracted one of our regular trolls.

Yesss! I fully support you. Look maybe new ideas will come later for the other stuff . But right now looking after yourself is good.

Hell I got new ideas back recently on a fic I stalled out on in 2021 . Sometimes your brain just needs a break

If you're so bored that you feel the need to troll/trade theses with the trolls, at least provide some entertainment for the rest of us and start a damn flyte.

Sadly, I don't think this phenomenon is exclusive to this comm.

Thanks. I mean, I think anon's just trolling to get a rise, but wanting to watch a comic book hero punch the bad guy comes from the same place some of the darkest alt-right media comes from: the dopamine hit of seeing someone enact violence upon those who transgress the social contract, and lionizing the enactor of that violence. It's ugliest, most brutal kind of fantasy, and we absolve ourselves of guilt for enjoying it by telling ourselves that everyone is okay in the end, that the hero is a good person, that their sense of justice is always correct, etc. (But the people I don't like are the real bad guys and they deserve it, unlike those other people's bad guys! I'll make them try to blow up the world or something cartoonishly evil to prove it!!! So there! Ka-pow! Guilt-free dopamine!)

I'm not saying I don't also enjoy that kind of thing from time to time (everyone does, it's hardwired into us as social animals), but it's important to remind yourself that this is babyfood for the soul, and that nuance and the consequences of violent acts exist, rather than to dismiss those as "edgy". The world is all about nuance and the consequences of violent acts, unfortunately.

Pretty sure people going "troll" isn't what's killing F!S. It's the lack of engagement due to people moving on to other social media platforms or getting out of fandom altogether.

I too, tend to land more towards the "I like my heroes to be heroic" trope and generally have contempt for the edgelord BS of deconstructions, but at the same time, if the hero actually killed the villain and they really showed the consequences--show them being shaken and haunted by what they've done, maybe they start to pull their punches in a fight and hesitate because they fear doing it again, etc.--that would be really interesting.

And by consequences, I mean lasting beyond a scene or two. So the part where Superman cries out in anguish after killing Zod in Man of Steel does not count, given that he's more or less back to normal afterwards. This is especially galling because with Superman, the theme of power, how it should and shouldn't be used, what constitutes as acceptable or going too far, has long been an interesting plot thread with the character.

Thanks, nonny, now I have "Love Pads the Film" in my head. XD

(Of all the dreams you treasure / only love, love pads the film.)

*points* haha, here's a tmnt2012 fan!

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