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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-10-08 04:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #6120 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6120 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-08 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, I'm onboard with this, but more wrt characterization than aesthetics. Like, I'd rather have a robot that looks 100% human but has a personality that's heavily informed by them being an artificial intelligence, than one that acts like just some guy in a fancy robot costume.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-09 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Strongly seconding this. I generally prefer fictional robots that visually pass for human; what I'm interested in is seeing the ways they differ from humanity on the inside.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-08 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah I feel this. like, I'm super tired of robots/AI being super emotional and human despite narrative claiming oh they're so robot wow when will they ever become human.

The Orville did it best with Isaac, but still erred a smidge too much toward him actually having a feeling versus logically using the stimulus/response in fleshy beings to provide a positive rather than negative outcome. I have always loved TNG but they super did not understand how a humanoid android should have responded to literally everything. I love Brent Spiner but the whole narrative around Data was flawed from the get-go. Seth McFarlane was clearly trying to fix that with Isaac and did pretty well, if not perfect.

So... C3PO, then?

(Anonymous) 2023-10-08 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Like, you'd rather have the old school Battlestar Galactica Cylons and not the newer ones disguised as humans.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-09 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Once I started learning programming, I started seeing how INCREDIBLY far from even a passable imitation of human emotion robots are, much less actual sentience, so the robots-with-human-feelings trope--which EVERY fictional robot seems to fall into--has started getting a little annoying to me. Anyway, if they're just humans with robot innards, why not just make the character ... human? I don't get it.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-09 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
You might enjoy 'The Warlock In Spite Of Himself'.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-09 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
OP

I apraciate people talking about characterization and personality aspect of this, I agree completely, I love when people nail down how a sapient machine would actually act instead of going Pinocchio.

But I admit this secret was about character designe. I'm very petty, and robot's with human disguises/exteriors are boring to me even if I can agree that otherwise they are a good written character. I... I just think robots are sexy Lol
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[personal profile] ariakas 2023-10-09 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah IA, it seems to me that writers always use robots to convey their thoughts on humanity and personhood rather than attempt to imagine how a machine would actually think/feel. Which is... fine, and probably seems more profound to the writer, but when that's all anybody does with every robot character, it gets so, so tiresome and unoriginal.

Like, damn was I ever disappointed when in new!BSG the Cylon god just turned out to be bible!god. What wasted potential.