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⌈ Secret Post #6126 ⌋

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[feotakahari]

Angst is a state of mind that can be depicted in isolation. Tragedy is a process, depicted through a series of events. I think of tragedy like turning a screw deeper and deeper into wood as the wood cracks and buckles.

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ayrt
this definition of Tragedy is pretty close to Greek classics, only without devine involvement and predestined fate. Hmm, I think I'm more of an angst fan then, more interested inner dialogue that the events happening in the story.

[feotakahari]

People argue back and forth about whether the Greeks were right about the need for destiny in tragedy, and to some extent, it depends on how you define destiny. Personally, I like the idea of tragedy as math equation. Hamlet as a character added to Elsinore as a place equals tragedy, not because a larger force decreed it, but because the in-character choices for Hamlet to make are mistakes within the specific context of Elsinore. Like that one comic about how Hamlet could have solved the plot of Othello with a minimum of deaths, and vice versa for Othello in the plot of Hamlet, but that’s simply not the situation each is trapped in.

[meadowphoenix]

people argue back and forth about whether the Greeks were right about the need for destiny in tragedy
Neither the extant plays nor Plato not Aristotle reflect that destiny is necessary for tragedy. Did those people read Oedipus Rex and call it a day?

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ayrt
we need to look into practical side of Greek theatre, Tragedy and Comedy. Tragedy gives the viewers a feeling of catharsis. Comedy entertains, pokes fun at current political affairs and problems, offers a novel outlook. There also was a mix of the two, the third genre that is less known today, I forget its name.

I wrote a fic that was a moke Greek poem once -- writing the choir was a lot of fun, as well as hexameter. It all felt pretty formulistic, a fashion choice, similar to Borocco music pieces. So my point is that Tragedy is meant to give people catharsis and, ideally, a good cry, which can be achived without Destiny and Fate. Just people being people and unlucky, wich is sad enough to cry on its own without the ancient conventions.

I've never managed to finish Hamlet even though I'm a fan of the 10th Doctor (the actor played Hamlet so many fans watched it), so idk.

[meadowphoenix]

just a drive-by pendant saying classical greek tragedy is defined by technical structure and competition, no matter what Aristotle says. Classical greek tragedy is a hymnal with props. It doesn't require divine involvement or predestined fate, that's hubris plays.