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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-10-19 06:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #6131 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6131 ⌋

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Re: Wild trolling in this secret

(Anonymous) 2023-10-22 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

But why are we trying to achieve masc??? That's what I don't understand

Re: Wild trolling in this secret

(Anonymous) 2023-10-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

It's not about achieving masc so much as escaping a box. There's nothing you can do to get out of it; there's always something about you that can be used to shove you right back into it.

And when it comes to characters, there's a certain set who says they want women who are outside of the box - but no female character ever seems to be outside of the box enough for them. As some above have come right out and said, the only way for a female character to meet their standards is to be 100% masculine, which is impossible.

And, of course, it happens in the reverse: the side that accepts femininity in women abhors masculinity in them. I still, to this day, have not been able to let go of a female author deriding Starbuck as a "boy with boobs," declaring she wasn't a real woman, that no women are like her -- but there was me, a real woman, relating to her.

There's no way to be good enough. There's no pleasing anyone.

Re: Wild trolling in this secret

(Anonymous) 2023-10-22 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Hmmm. It's possible we think similarly but just describe the phenomenom differently. I see women getting shoved back into the 'woman' box or not being allowed to be non traditionally feminine as fundamentally about sexism (which includes internalised sexism). Which covers a wider range of portrayals of female characters than just where they fit on a masc-femme scale.

For instance, I'm interested in seeing female characters with a wider range of body types, including buff, but also fat - but deviations from Hollywood hot get particularly nastily received. Which I see as sexism.