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Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

Some people even on the pro-choice side do argue though that very late term abortions due to obvious features that would lead to the child being majorly disabled IS wrong though because it would be basically eugenics. So even with some pro-choice people, the right of a woman to not having a child is conditional.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

You can be pro-choice and think abortion (all of it or only if you do it for certain reasons) is wrong. What you can't do is be pro-choice and want to make it illegal. Being pro-choice also generally means being pro- not needing to justify why you want the abortion, so nobody should be able to know whether the sought abortion is due to ableism or for "good" reasons.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

But the comment above was about whether or not it was wrong. Not if it should be illegal. There are two conversations here - the morality of it and the legality of it. The two can overlap but don't necessarily have to.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

Some of morals sometimes can contradict each other. I am fighting for legal rights because I find morally that person doing what they want with their own body trumps my own (and anyone's) feeling about reasons.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
Yes, as a pro-choice person I can disagree with a choice. But it doesn't mean I have a power and SHOULD have a power to stop people from doing with their bodies what they think is right.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

But that wasn't the point. The point was the morality of whether or not abortion is wrong and on that, some people disagree depending on the situation.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

Morals. Have. Fucking. Shades. No moral is absolute

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Too bad people are clinging to absolutes like there's no tomorrow.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

Are you airt? Because if so you really need to work on your reading comprehension. Yes, morals have shades. That was the point.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, that's an anti-choice strawman and fallacy. "Pro-choicers support eugenics because they think it's better for babies with defects to be aborted." This was literally what I was taught in Catholic school, albeit to give the school some credit, it was a softer version that didn't mention eugenics specifically, but did present the pro-choice stance as only being about sparing children from living with disabilities, and the argument against it being that being born with a disability is better than not having the chance to be born. They didn't say anything at all about the argument for the right not to give birth simply because you don't want a child at all; it was all about the child for them on both sides and not the pregnancy.

Re: I'm still trying to wrap my head around

[(Anonymous)]

It's not a strawman considering I personally know several people who are very much pro-choice but draw the line at situations they consider eugenics. I'm from Germany. We have a History with that.