[ SECRET POST #6147 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6147 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Except that fanfiction isn't supposed to be for profit, so literally who cares if someone wants to use AI to write fanfic?

[(Anonymous)]

Because AI is inherently exploitative? Because the heart of fandom is a genuine love for and exploration of a given media, which AI completely and utterly lacks?

[(Anonymous)]

Because they're not writing it? A linguistic probability engine is going to pick the most statistically common sequence of words in its (stolen) dataset in response to a prompt. That's not writing.

I get the impulse behind "I don't want to do the work, I'm not skilled enough to and I don't have enough time or energy to improve, and I can't afford to pay someone else to do it, but I want this thing."

I only learned to sew because I couldn't buy the costumes I wanted off the rack; ready made versions don't exist and the "made by teams of skilled artisans from $500/yard fabric" versions cost as much as a new car.

I never made it to skilled artisan level myself; when I look at my cosplay, sometimes I just see the flaws caused by my lack of money/time/patience/fine motor skills.

Writing comes way easier to me than sewing. I still read my favorite books and authors and fics and mourn that I'll never be as skilled as they are at the same things they're good at, but I don't despair that after decades of work I'm not even a gifted amateur.

And I can't draw. All the problems that plague my sewing and crafting (lack of precision, inability to reproduce a specific line or angle or shape exactly no matter how many times I try or how much practice I force myself through, my shit fine motor control and hand-eye coordination) are on full display even if I stick to stick figures. I even have trouble parsing perspective in real life, looking at actual 3d objects.

Back when I first saw someone using the wombo AI, before I knew "AI" art and writing were based on stolen data, I plugged a few prompts in and was amused by the results. But I hadn't made anything. I couldn't imagine claiming I'd created the images it spat out, even before I knew about the data scraping. I wasn't proud of them, any more than I'd be proud of my cooking skills for nuking a tv dinner.

I'm rambling, but I don't think "AI" art is art. No thought went into it. I'll feel differently if an actual artificial intelligence is ever created, and then feels moved to make something because it wants to.

And I would be less viscerally grossed out by "AI" that used a truly informed, opt-in dataset, where every image or line of text was public domain and/or from artists and writers fairly compensated for their work, either with a higher initial work for hire payment where they surrender their rights to the writing/images they contribute and the work produced from theirs, or a small payment every time the dataset was used to produce anything. But the creators of the big name LLMs have admitted that an opt in dataset wouldn't be a big enough statistical sample to yield usable results. They literally can't work without theft.

Fans join fandom because they love the art they're fans of, or love something about it and wish the rest was different. Fandom isn't just about "I've consumed all of X and I want more," and that's the best AI can do. Generate extruded fanfiction-ish/fanart-ish product, the equivalent of plastic fruit in a fruit salad. No thanks.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly this! Excellently put!

[(Anonymous)]

Amen to all of this!

[(Anonymous)]

"write" fanfic

They're -not- writing it. They're not even attempting something remotely creative.