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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-11-11 12:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #6154 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6154 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
But dont you know that it's ~impossible~ to distinguish what's political because ~everything~ potentially is and you probably just hate black people? /s

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a reason why everybody is saying "sure OP, you decide what is political to you and curate your own experience, glad it's working for you" because we don't know what OP considers politics/political.

If OP started out demanding that others automatically know what is political to them, and that they "keep [their undefined politics] out of my fandom" it'd be a different response.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
+100

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Everything potentially is, but also matters involving civil rights or people in general are not political, only things involving routine municipal administration are political. So, given that no one in fandom talks about whether and how to fund the restoration of that old building in the center of Barbara's town, it can safely be surmised that, "I don't like politics being in fandom" means, "I only want cishet white men in my media."

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you get turned around somewhere in the middle of that, because this doesn't make any sense?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Okay, see, nothing involving people is political, but fandom generally only talks about events and issues involving people, so anyone who calls the discussion of those events and issues "political" actually has a problem with the people. Get it?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like this is trying to be clever/sarcastic but failing because nobody ever claimed "nothing involving people is political" so it just stops making sense there.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

But it's true: matters involving people and rights are not matters of politics, they're matters of right and wrong. They're made into "politics" by people who think certain others shouldn't have rights.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, are you a sovereign citizen type who thinks laws and governments don't exist or something. Nvm, carry on. No conversation to be had here.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

How does that even follow? Of course laws and governments exist. But laws and governments should protect all people in a county, not just the ones others have voted to protect.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
lol and what do you call the process of trying to get laws and governments to exist or change in reality?

Just because you declare something not political doesn't mean it suddenly isn't politics.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree, simply because the concept of "right and wrong" is not universal, but mostly cultural and yes, POLITICAL.

Even the definition of human right is political. ...even the definition of human itself is.

What you are saying has maybe sense in an utopia where we have a clearly cut and settled definition of RIGHT that isn't defined mostly by people in power or cultural biases. Not in real life.

(And I kind of agree with you. We should all agree that everyone has the same rights. Certain political ideologies and parties should not aim to oppress other people's rights. But that isn't reality, unfortunately.)

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

No. It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yes.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, you don't get to decide that civil rights aren't political. The term "civil rights" itself exists because rights are political. If you care about people having rights, then civil rights is a subject that must be considered when you engage in politics, because politicians make policies based around it. Hence, it is political. Just because it shouldn't be doesn't mean it isn't.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
+100 It shouldn't be. Everyone having equal rights and an equal say should be the foundation on which we can then discuss political matters, but alas.