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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-11-11 12:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #6154 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6154 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so confused by this. Do y'all have like, separate journals/tumblrs/twitters for RL and fandom? And I'm not talking like a fandom run shipping tumblr/journal whatever yeah fine, keep real life stuff out of that, but peoples' personal pages...

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Idts, but there is a small vocal segment of people that insists we should?

If blocking every mention of politics works out for OP though, good for them.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
So I guess this hasn't been my experience, but in your experience, most of the wankers you see are people you know RL and consider compelled to follow?

I mean I guess on like... Facebook, but your Tumblr and Twitter is full of wankers you know from your RL life?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, IIRC, MySpace was more about IRL me existing online. Had my friends and classmates on my friends list and interacted with them much similarly as I did IRL.

LiveJournal and forum sites were much more strictly for fandom. Most of the people I knew IRL weren't into online fandoming or were in fandoms I wasn't into.

So I relatively began to see online stuff as more hobbyist stuff, not so much social media is the online representation of "me" as a human being.

Facebook never appealed to me because for a while MySpace was more fun to be on but when MySpace began to die out, a lot of my fandom friends were on FB and they were friend requesting small time celebrities. Shared some dumb shit those celebs were posting. I created a FB profile to stay connected to my fandom friends since the forums spaces we were on were dying out. I generally tried using FB as a small glimpse into my RL but also a small bit of my fandom interests. When people I knew IRL began friend requesting me I used FB less and less, never a place I posted on a lot.

So generally speaking I tended to split up my online ID.
Twitter started out similarly to FB. Most of my IRL friends weren't into Twitter and slowly I saw fandoming become more prevalent there. It eventually became my main fandom ID. It was me, I didn't hide my name or age, but the majority of what I used Twitter for was for fandom stuff. And then I deleted my Twitter account because by 2021 I was using it less and less. Fandoming sucked on there, Villain of the Day BS was getting tired, Musk buying the thing made the place worse and worse so I deleted my account once I realized Twitter wasn't a fun or interesting place anymore.

I never really used LJ but my friends used it a lot. As it died out, friends on LJ moved to Tumblr. Tumblr's formatting was really ugly and not fun to scroll for me so even though my fandom friends were super into it I didn't join it. Until Twitter began to suck ass. I joined Tumblr way past its' prime and it's OK. It's a space where I mostly repost fandom stuff and DM my fandom friends.

All this to say, I don't think people use socials in the same ways and everyone approaches their online ID and/or fandom ID differently.

I personally find it hard not to engage in some form of politics no matter what you do.
Also, some stuff is way more engaging when it's stuff I can enjoy with others. Sometimes with IRL friends, sometimes moreso with fandom friends.

I think it's interesting for people who can both have their IRL ID be part of their fandom ID (like YouTube creators for example).

Most social medias don't/never appeal(ed) to me because I generally see online stuff as more hobbyist/fandom stuff. Anything outside of that is boring/uninteresting to me.
In terms of politics...I suppose only so much of it can be a thing online, because politics affects our every day lives so it's bound to break the barriers for me and...it can become exhausting to engage with.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
... yes? Why wouldn't you?

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
No, why would I?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
*looks at the above two comments* Two types of people, huh.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-13 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
I never had one for RL, only fandom. Had no interest in posting random pieces of information about myself or the world. I used them to escape reality, not preach about it.

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Unironically glad this is working out for you. If more people who are annoyed by politics* did this they'd probably be happier too.

*whatever topics they personally consider political

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd gladly do that as well, but I find that impossible on Twitter or Tumblr. Regardless of how apolitocal a blog may appear, the poster "makes an exception" at some point. Do you participate in fandoms on Livejournal and Dreamwidth only, or are there any other online spaces where such a seperation is possible?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
DA I block by topic on Tumblr and don't use Twitter at all. I don't really feel the need to block "politics" on DW because the people I have on my friends list do post about politics but are generally pretty sensible about it, and even if I disagree they're still coming from a reasonable place, not trying to stir up drama/attention like on other platforms.

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
What if a piece of media around which a fandom has formed has political themes, making it necessary to sometimes discuss politics in the course of discussing the work?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Obligatory “this post is a political take.”

Seriously, I’m in Arknights fandom, and the game itself is as politically sensitive as it can get past the Chinese censors. There are all kinds of people with different brands whacked-out politics who take the game as endorsing them, and if I avoided them all, all I’d have left is the people who post about waifus.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Discussing the internal politics of a video game, even through the lens of its real-life counterparts, is not the same as bringing unrelated real-life politics into spaces for fandoms that have nothing whatsoever to do with them.

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Cultivate your online experience yourself. If everyone did that, the internet would be a slightly better place.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
But dont you know that it's ~impossible~ to distinguish what's political because ~everything~ potentially is and you probably just hate black people? /s

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a reason why everybody is saying "sure OP, you decide what is political to you and curate your own experience, glad it's working for you" because we don't know what OP considers politics/political.

If OP started out demanding that others automatically know what is political to them, and that they "keep [their undefined politics] out of my fandom" it'd be a different response.

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Everything potentially is, but also matters involving civil rights or people in general are not political, only things involving routine municipal administration are political. So, given that no one in fandom talks about whether and how to fund the restoration of that old building in the center of Barbara's town, it can safely be surmised that, "I don't like politics being in fandom" means, "I only want cishet white men in my media."

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(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you

(Anonymous) 2023-11-11 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I use tumblr and sometimes the only way to have a peaceful experience is to block topics and/or people
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-11-11 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
curating your dash is for the best!

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
The worst fandom to be in when irl political events are happen was early 2010s the main Livejournal Hetalia fandom.

To put it lightly, People wrote very inappropriate fanfics about personified country's responses to events and someone made a fucking 8tracks playlist for the war in Iran.

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Holy fuck, yes.
I'm so glad I never got into that fandom even if I was at the right time to be sucked it (everyone I knew in fandom was into it. But I was really into Russian Revolution history and WWII literature at the time and got pretty irked even by the manga's premise).
My mindset is and will be YKINMKATOK, but what I saw in certain kink meme prompts was just evil. ...or stupid. Mostly stupid, but the result was a vile pile of garbage nontheless.
Fuck that fandom.

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If you're actually wondering about details... (not OP)

(Anonymous) 2023-11-12 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Like I said, I'm not the OP, but here's my recent experience, and it's possible OP had something similar happen in their fandoms once. I unfollowed several mainly-fandom accounts that I'd been following for years, because in the past month those accounts all rapidly reversed their stance on letting people take breaks from the awfulness of the world and on not guilt tripping anyone for taking those breaks. Accounts that an exact month ago had literally posted reminders that it's ok and good to say you're not informed enough to have an opinion on Political Issue instead of forcing yourself to take one, are now sharing posts about how that is propaganda designed to keep you uninformed, and it's your duty to educate yourself. Accounts that used to post like clockwork around election times that you must choose the lesser evil candidate or the greater evil will win, are now saying "we" are not voting for anyone in any party who doesn't explicitly support condemn Israel and support Palestine. (Which, hah, that's like maybe ten people out of hundreds, so cool excuse to slack on voting, guys.) And now their entire accounts are at least half shit like that and memes about Palestine that don't actually give any concrete advice to help, it's just so we will remember how awful things are because we're not allowed to forget for a second anymore.

That is politics in fandom, and that is what made me unfollow fandom accounts en masse. Not "black people existing."