[ SECRET POST #6170 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6170 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is stupid.

The biggest reason that male characters are more popular than female characters in transformative fandom is because people in transformative fandom, on the whole, are more attracted to men than to women. Period.

The second most important reason that male characters are more popular than female characters is because there are generally more male characters and they get more screen time and plot significance.

Any other reasons beyond that pale in comparison, and aren't even worth mentioning

[(Anonymous)]

The other reasons are absolutely worth mentioning to people in fandom who watch their female faves get constantly shit on. In those cases, your first reason may apply, but the second certainly doesn't; and even if the first does, that doesn't excuse people behaving like misogynistic assholes, nor does it excuse the hypocrisy that tends to accompany it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, any time a female character gets a bigger fan response than the show-writer's favorite male character, they always punish the fandom by ruining her character, killing her off, making her "fall in love" with some rando who then leaves the show after one episode and takes her with him. Show-writers need to get over their misogyny and realize that the female character that everyone likes is still THEIR character.

[(Anonymous)]

Fucking thank you.

The two reasons given are totally valid and imo inarguable. There are statistically more straight women in fandom, and statistically more male characters in media (which alone is a BUCKWILD trend when you think about it). In fact, the people who stick with "eh, I just think the guys are hot" are the people I fully respect in this general conversation, because hell yeah, get it.

The other reasons, like "there are no good female characters" and "any given female character is always written worse than any given male character" are what drive us insane on a daily basis, so they're what people are actually going to talk about!

[(Anonymous)]

Except that when women say "I just think guys are hot," and there are plenty who do, you guys don't like that either and tell them there's more to fandom and than what you find hot. You would be the ones to better accept that for some people, even God forbid some women even though you think women are the superior gender that is above silly hormones, fandom in fact very much is only for exploring things through the lens of sexual attraction.

[(Anonymous)]

What fandoms are you in where this happens? Because I see tons of women in my fandoms being very open about only being there for the hot guys and no one ever says a word about it.

The only times I have ever seen it being treated as an issue is when they're also bashing the female characters.

[ariakas]

The biggest reason that male characters are more popular than female characters in transformative fandom is because people in transformative fandom, on the whole, are more attracted to men than to women. Period.

Yeaaaaaahhhh as someone who is legit attracted to women and whose first ship was Haruka/Michiru I really wish straight women/gay trans dudes/solely masc-attracted nb people/etc. stopped thinking they have to do performative Yuri Duty to cleanse their BL sins or something because it's not like it doesn't bleed through with every word that they're not really into it. Kudos to the ones who call it an "ace headcanon" though they've really cracked the code, de-sexed all of the icky female characters, but wokely!

The second most important reason that male characters are more popular than female characters is because there are generally more male characters and they get more screen time and plot significance.

Yep. As seen by there being overwhelmingly more fanfic/fanworks about female characters when the female characters are the stars and better written, like the aforementioned BSSM, Madoka, hell even something like Korra where F/F has by far and away the most fanfic because the fans legitimately have the hots for the main F/F ship even though it's a token half-nod at the end of the series because they characters themselves are complex and well-written and the stars of the show. People want to see themselves as the heroes and to desire things that are desirable, not smash two cardboard cutouts the writers see only as plot devices for their male cast members together into disinterested gruel to ward off yaoi impiety.

[(Anonymous)]

And with Korra especially IIRC the producers actually wanted to do more with their relationship in the show but were told by the company that they couldn't, so you can't even really put the blame on the creators there.

[ariakas]

As a fellow feudal lord it's also _hot_, as in something young wlw would actually want to fantasize about and neither tepid obligatory 'representation' nor male gaze-saturated moeshit. Most Expanse fanfic is F/F for the same reason, the main femmeslash ship rocks.

Like whatever else it is fandom is a place for people to explore nascent or forbidden or fantastical sexuality, and that requires desire to be there?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeeeahhhh and that's bullshit because all they had to do to make the ship credible at the end was keep up the great friendship the characters already had in season 1, but they didn't even do that. They had them stop interacting almost entirely.

[(Anonymous)]

What? They weren't friends in season 1 (or really 2 iirc) but they bonded really well in season 3 and in 4 Asami was the only person Korra WAS talking to during her recovery from major trauma. The progression was fine.