[ SECRET POST #6170 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6170 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Oh ffs. This is the exact same argument people pull out every single time.

[greghousesgf]

because it's true.

[(Anonymous)]

"Some writers don't write women well" =/= "there are no good female characters." Many people behave as if the latter is true.

[(Anonymous)]

It hasn't been true for at least 20 years.

Some writers don't write female characters well, sure. But some writers also don't write male characters well, and for some reason you never hear anyone complaining about that.

[greghousesgf]

I've seen quite a few shows where the male characters were badly written too.

[(Anonymous)]

But does anyone complain about that? No. A male character can be as shallow as a dinner plate and fandom will talk about how wonderful they are.

[greghousesgf]

I have.

[(Anonymous)]

Cool, then you're a distinct minority.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, gosh, it's so good that you're fandom in general, rather than a single person who isn't necessarily representative of a general social trend.

[greghousesgf]

you the same anon who said "does anyone complain about that? no" I'm not nobody.

[(Anonymous)]

Hux remains my go-to example of this bullshit, but Jaskier has come close.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that's a perfect example. Hux is barely a character in the actual movies and yet fandom is all over him.

If you'd never seen the movies themselves and just went on how fandom talks about him, you'd think he had a starring role.

[(Anonymous)]

Some writers don't write female characters well, sure.

That's literally what greghousesgf originally said. Make up your mind.

[(Anonymous)]

But then they wouldn't get to feel better about themselves by calling other people names!

[(Anonymous)]

Who's been called names?

[(Anonymous)]

I have.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Also, just below. They're not using the word, but they're calling greghousesgf a misogynist.

[(Anonymous)]

Whenever someone says that, it's always an excuse for why they hate female characters. "They're badly written."

I wish people could just be honest and admit they hate women and be done with it instead of trying to put all the blame on writers for not writing "good" female characters, especially when "good" is always some ridiculous standard that no one ever expects male characters to meet in order to be considered "good." No female character is ever "good" enough for these people, and they'll find every excuse possible to point out why all female characters are Bad, Actually.

[(Anonymous)]

Boy howdy, there sure are a lot of absolutes in that post.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry that I'm sick and tired of how normalized blatant misogyny is in fandom and how everyone wants to insist that it isn't actually misogyny.

[(Anonymous)]

Female characters aren't women. Boy howdy, as you say, though, there sure are a lot of women who should be honest about hating WOMEN (who are real people) instead of trying to excuse it with "but they're all nasty bitches with boners for problematic male villains and who hate beautiful flawless lady characters!"

[(Anonymous)]

When you have people who seek out the fans of female characters in order to "explain" to them how awful those characters are, and how they should be focused on a particular male character instead; when they create usernames specifically to attack fans of female characters, and try to clutter up the tags used by those fans with insulting commentary; when they use gendered slurs against those fans; when they go after wlw and, again, "explain" to them how they should give male characters a chance...

When all of these things happen, you start to think it isn't merely a matter of them finding men attractive.

[(Anonymous)]

As a woman, it's fucking exhausting to have to hear constantly that female characters just mysteriously always suck more than male characters, every time. Love the strawman (strawwoman?) but this is a fandom website so yeah we're going to talk about fandom trends and fandom feelings.

[(Anonymous)]

THANK YOU FUCKING THIS. It's so exhausting being castigated for not spending more time on characters I don't like because they happen to be female, and when I point out there there ARE one or two female characters I do like, I get told that I'm lying because those specific female characters (and only those, cause THEY'RE not misogynists, unlike me) are shit characters, so it CAN'T be that I like those characters, I just hate ALL WOMEN!!11!eleventy.

These people are so exhausting.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I love being told that I, a woman married to a woman who has one male friend and the rest are female, who works on an entirely female team, and who spends most of my family time with my mother, am a misogynist because I don't spend my free time adoring the caricatures of women that are written by men.

Sorry honey, it turns out I actually hate all real women because I don't like the way the vast majority of fake women are written on tv. *eyeroll*