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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-12-04 07:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #6177 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6177 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Firstly, they didn't know what the Death Star was capable of. It was the first time it was used to blow up a planet and the idea of a weapon that powerful was probably unthinkable.

Secondly, how long do you think it takes for someone to stop whatever they're doing, travel to wherever the nearest ship they can use is, get it ready for takeoff, and clear the atmosphere enough that they wouldn't be caught in the shockwaves or debris from the explosion?

They had no chance.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Bail Organa knew what it was capable of.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure several minutes is enough time to evacuar a planet, even in a society that uses FTL travel.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know Star Wars is pretty soft as sci-fi goes, but I don't think it's that soft that fleeing a planet is as easy as "run for it!"

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much as easy as starting your car. That is how easy it is in Star Wars. And you don't have to deal with street traffic, you just go "up". Of course...if you want to believe it, then the Death Star had more than enough internal space for hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of prisoners. And tractor beams to pull the fleeing ships in, in case one of them was Bail's royal yacht or something. Of course... they'd have little time to offload them before they set course for Yavin. Gee, I guess Luke really was Darth Vader's kid...

See, it can always be worse. All those hopeful refugees, from a planet destroyed by a Skywalker, blown up by a Skywalker.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
this. human beings can't successfully evacuate a medium-large city in three days with five days' lead time for a devastating hurricane or flood, what makes you think anyone can evacuate a fucking planet with about five minutes' lead? It probably took longer than that to fuel the goddamn rockets on the royal starship.
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[personal profile] calystarose 2023-12-05 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
agreeing with the others, a few minutes (hell even 30) wouldn't be enough to evacuate anyone, much less anyone that wasn't already in a ship that was taking off. Like, any ships presently taking off MIGHT have made it, maybe, if the debris/shockwave didn't kill them. But it's not like hopping on the interstate and outrunning a hurricane.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think a few minutes is enough, based on other ships-leaving-the-planet scenes, to get to a ship, get it off the ground and get far enough away from the planet to jump to hyperspace. Maybe if you were in orbit already and didn't get hit by gravity issues from the Death Star suddenly showing up you might get away? But that's not enough time to evacuate anyone else. Star Wars doesn't have transporters.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so. I work in a high-rise building. We have an evacuation drill once or twice a year. It takes about 5 minutes for everyone to evacuate a 10 story building when the fire alarm is going off, and that's considered reasonably good by the fire department.

I feel the need to reiterate - this is the amount of time it takes to evacuate a single building, not a planet. Also, we've all been trained on how to evacuate the building and get a refresher training in addition to the evacuation drill.

All this is to say, unless you were already headed to the spaceport with a ship waiting to take you out of blast range, "several minutes" is not enough time to evacuate a planet with no advance warning beyond "weird space station appears."

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Ffs how long do you think it takes to get to a ship, lift off, and hit orbit

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"Chewie, get us out of here"
--Han Solo, Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope.

About thirty seconds, including blasting the Stormtroopers in your way.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
When they were already in a ship and knew they were in danger....

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
What, you don’t hang out in your car with a stunt driver on a Thursday afternoon just in case you need to leave the country in a hurry?

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Alderaan was a highly developed society, with a lot of spaceports and people with personal ships. Nobody is suggesting that everyone would have been able to get off, but there ought to have been a lot more people than in canon. The senior royals ought to have had their escape craft ready, especially after Bail's return in Rogue One, and a lot more people ready to punch it.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Lando got Cloud City into an evacuation mode within a couple of minutes with just one announcement. People were booking it for their ships.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Granted, they definitely had a lot more than a few minutes to get out and the Imps didn’t fry the atmosphere and everything around it on their way in, but yes. A very small portion of an isolated city the size of Denmark got out of the city in those first twenty minutes or so after Lando’s announcement.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
all logistics aside, I think there's also the numbing impact of living in a fascist society. Like, yes, that's ominous, but the Empire is always doing ominous shit!!! it's gotta throw its weight around and make sure everyone knows it's the biggest and scariest and to bend the knee. of course they're posturing with their newest biggest gun, whatever it is. but the sun still shines and you still have to get home and make dinner for the kids and get up in the morning, you know?

5 minutes is just not enough time to emotionally reconcile "this really definitely is it, time to uproot your entire life, abandon everything and become refugees on a completely different planet (that's also probably in the empire btw, good luck)", let alone get your family organized and onto a hyperdrive ship. and 98% of the planet at least probably lives and works entirely on the planet, so there wouldn't BE enough ships for everyone even if they had time and drilled evacuation plans. so anyone who did know what the death star was capable of had very good reasons for not starting a mass panic unless they knew the death star was 1) actually done, it's been in construction delay hell for years, you know how govt projects are, and 2) actually going to fire. on them. right now. rather than just being threatening and getting some weird new concessions from the planetary govt. Which they didn't and couldn't know!