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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-12-15 06:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #6188 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6188 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[9-1-1, Bobby/Athena]



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[Pic is from XKCD]



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08. [SPOILERS for Sea of Stars]





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09. [WARNING for discussion of dub/non con, forced impregnation]

































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(Anonymous) 2023-12-16 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, I kind of feel out of step with both the secret and the comments. Unlike commenters here, I do think this activity is way more common in guy-dominated fandom spaces than in women-dominated spaces. Not saying women never do it, but it's a lot easier to avoid it or go a long time without noticing it, whereas sometimes when I check in on Reddit, I'm just like "wat" at seeing a third of the threads being "who would win" "which special technique is more effective" "who's the best fighter" "how does this power level system actually work/scale up" etc.

(Kind of also makes me think of that aspect of dude porn too that is obsessed with specifying how many inches every character's dick is and what cup size every female character has. There's so much "here is a numerical aspect to [activity], and obviously maxing it out means being the best at [activity]!!" which I just... uh do not see in female-dominated fandom at all.)

But unlike OP, I just don't think it's that big of a deal. It's refreshing to me to see people doing fandom in a different way. I wouldn't want to hang out around those spaces regularly because I find the focus on those topics boring, but I don't feel uncomfortable or pessimistic about what this means for society. I AM concerned about people who are thoughtless about competition, domination, winning, etc. and have difficulty imagining that there's anything more to life, and who think that empathy, cooperation, sharing, non-domination, and vulnerability are terrible and bad, and such people do absolutely exist in male fandom spaces. But I would say that a lot of the guys who think about who would win and stuff are actually pretty normal and well-adjusted -- it's just a fun pastime for them.

Also, I think you are right that the big disparity in what men and women find interesting in fandom is kind of worrying and does suggest that men as a whole are socialized very differently than women, but I kind of already know that. Given what I already know about male and female socialization, the way it manifests in fandom is predictable, but the root issue worries me a lot more than the fandom behavior and I don't think engaging in the fandom behavior is necessarily a bad sign about the character of the person who engages in it. I'm worried about the trend but the behavior itself is harmless.