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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-12-15 06:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #6188 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6188 ⌋

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[9-1-1, Bobby/Athena]



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(Anonymous) 2023-12-15 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't that kind of a legitimate pondering when you have two fighty characters, though? Because sometimes I, a woman, wonder what would happen if Batman and Iron Man fought (when I'm not wondering how a romantic relationship between them would evolve)?

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2023-12-15 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I would prefer works that give attention to HOW the characters beat each other. What I usually get is works where the winning character is “mightier.”

(Anonymous) 2023-12-16 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I did it for genshin, ranking everybody for 1vs1, and I'm not a guy.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-16 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah... like, if you want to have a discussion about it, fine. But when that kind of mentality gets up into the writers room/director, you get that bullshit from BvS. "Martha" my ass.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-16 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I admit I'm impressed that you applied the "what you want out of fiction is what you want out of reality" argument to guys male fan behavior for once. It's usually reserved for girls liking toxic or "problematic" ships or characters and women reading books like 50 Shades of Grey.

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(Anonymous) 2023-12-16 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Idk, I think competition is very normal. We see it in wildlife constantly and it’s a naturally occurring thing in humans from a very young age. Try to be faster than someone else doing a task, comparing things like height, age, abilities…that’s universal.
I can understand media focused on that doesn’t appeal to you but the rest of this sounds like a you problem.

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(Anonymous) 2023-12-16 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Competition is pretty normal and doesn't necessarily preclude cooperation or empathy. Team-based competition, for example, is cooperative on its face, and can create intense bonds among teammates. Bonds can even be forged through one-on-one competition: when well-matched opponents face one another, they often come away feeling a kind of respect that can lead to friendship.

Consider, also, that people enjoy competition and find it valuable because it's a means of testing themselves and honing their skills. To win is to accomplish; to lose is to learn. Either way, you're getting direct feedback on the work you've put into something, and specific examples of how you may be able to do even better. Your opponent, in this case, isn't your enemy; they're your teacher. They are, to some extent, your confidant.

I watch a lot of hockey. I'm sure it's a similar story in other sports, but these players are getting traded on a fairly regular basis. They'll be skating for Team A one season; skating against Team A the next. Yes, they get chippy, and there are fights, and there are players that no one likes - but for the most part, they respect one another, and are friends with one another. If it's a Leafs-Bruins game, and a Bruins player gets seriously injured, then despite the rivalry, the Leafs players are gonna root for the injured player to safely get up and off the ice. The competition may be "zero-sum," in the sense that only one team can win the Cup, but it certainly doesn't mean it's 'The Lord of the Flies' out there.

Now, can competition get ugly and toxic? Absolutely! But that's not really about competition, per se. It's about, first of all, the psychology of the folks involved; and second, about whether serious in-group/out-group bias has been activated in those folks (your competitor can be part of your in-group, such as in the case of the above hockey players!). And if someone has in-group/out-group bias activated, then even if they're not competitive, their sense of empathy can completely tank. I've seen people who typically shy away from any hint of conflict express absolutely vicious opinions on what should happen to "bad" people.

On a final note, anon, remember the golden rule of fandom: what people want in fiction does not necessarily reflect what they want in reality. A man can want to see the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny in a movie, but be a total peacenik in real life. And a lot of the "who would win in a fight" conversations are ultimately just for shits and giggles. I'm a woman, and I have fond memories of the "So-and-So Vs. So-and-So" conversations we'd have to pass the time at the cafe where I worked during college. They were silly and over-the-top, and had nothing at all to do with anything any of us were doing in the real world.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-16 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is that the real answer is: In A's book B would win the first round and then A would rally and defeat B.

That's the answer. That's ALWAYS the answer. I'm tired of pretending it's a math problem instead of a fanfic prompt.

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(Anonymous) 2023-12-16 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, me and my friends were debating if Goku could win in a fight against Sailor Moon when we were twelve and we were all girls. I still have these sort of debates with my fandom friends

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Transcript: While I'm not surprised that SSSniperwolf is regurgitating some rather Andrew Tate-esque talking points...

I still find myself throwing up in my mouth a little just thinking about this being a thing.

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-12-15 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
03. https://i.imgur.com/xNQCSDm.png
[9-1-1, Bobby/Athena]

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I love them.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2023-12-15 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
He’s mild compared to Mineta Minoru.

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-12-15 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
05. https://i.imgur.com/RDDS6W0.png
[Pic is from XKCD]

(Anonymous) 2023-12-15 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, uh, was something left out this secret? Like, what's the issue with being proud of their fetish fic?

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Fact.

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-12-15 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Transcript: I think these kinds of memes are terrible. The assumptions they make about what is considered inspiring is infuriating. It also ignores that there are plenty of fluffy books and other written materials out there. The worst part is I tend to see these in writing-focused communities. It makes me glad I just write somewhat casually and don't take it quite as seriously as I used to.

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08. [SPOILERS for Sea of Stars]
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(Anonymous) 2023-12-15 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Forced pregnancy is basically someone parasiting someone else's body for their own purposes, so I mean if you're into non-con it seems like an escalation that follows the same logic

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-12-15 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc.

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What character archetypes do you hate?

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