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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-01-05 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #6209 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6209 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously defending her?

You know that she's actually part of the 'rich and entitled' now, right?

She has had bad things happen to her, yes, but how does that make it okay for her to use her power and privilege to dismiss, mock, and revile people making choices about their own selves, people that don't have that power and privilege?

Even if she does think all that bullshit about the trans movement, are people not supposed to correct her? Are they just supposed to accept that it's okay for her to think that way because of the ways her life was hard? Are people just supposed to give her a pass?

What are you looking for here?

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
She doesn't believe trans women are equivalent to natal women. It's a fact. Cope. People are allowed to have differing beliefs.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

People are allowed to have differing beliefs, true. There are people who believe that the Earth is flat, that dinosaurs never existed, that gay people will burn in hell, that women aren't worth as much as men, that plane contrails are the government dumping chemicals (more than the actual jet engine exhaust and water vapor) to control the masses. And as long as people with these kinds of beliefs announce them on public platforms, others with opposing beliefs are allowed to tell them why they think they are wrong and harmful. Funny how that works.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
You're probably a man that likes women with dicks so you'll die defending trans women to suit your fetish.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's a well-constructed rebuttal.

Believe what you what, you're allowed, but I'm laughing at you.

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
You're assuming that the belief that (belief #1) trans women aren't different from biological women is as dumb as (belief #2) believing dinosaurs never existed and that chemtrails control the masses. You also believe that Belief #1 is fact. It is not.

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

I believe that all women are different from each other, how could we not be? We all have differences in our experiences. I believe that trans women are not less than ciswomen, which I do think that JK Rowling does believe.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-08 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
They are trans women which aren't equivalent to regular women.
As for being less than regular women, well.......some of them are. A lot of them are just men that are highly autogynephiliac or perhaps "transtrenders".

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Where are all these claims that trans women are not biologically different from cis women?? TERFs keep arguing with this claim, but I have yet to hear a single trans person or ally make such a claim in the first place. I mostly hear trans people laughing at the TERFs who think that they claim this.

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
If you don't want be called a TERF you have to swear that transwomen are women. Indistinguishable from biological women who mostly prefer to be women not Biological or Cis, just women. That's the problem. They're not women, they're transwomen, and the biological differences should be acknowledged instead of letting transwomen into biological women's sports. Reasonable trans people don't try to pretend they're indistinguishable.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-08 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
The claim that they belong in women's shelters and women's sports because you think they aren't different from biological female (female from birth).

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-08 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
No female that's born female gives a shit about someone calling them a TERF.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, then I believe you're a subhuman piece of absolute filth who will die alone and miserable because you're scared that any woman you meet might be trans, to the point you become a Transvestigator and will see cis women as trans for not fitting a specific mold. <3

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know what a transvestigator is, nor do I care to find out. I just know you're wrong and that you're probably another man just like the commenter before us that likes women with dicks, so you'll die defending trans women to suit your fetish.

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
AFAB, sweetie.

But a transvestigator is someone who "examines" people to determine if they're Sekritly Trans.

Next you're gonna tell me you define women by giving birth, you shitty fake feminist.

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-08 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Secretly examine people like pull down their pants in public to see their genitals? Nope, never going to happen.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-08 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Fake feminist? IJBOL

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, how insecure in your own world view do you have to be to give a shit about what's going on in some stranger's pants? I feel so sorry for you, cause you must be so angry and afraid All The Time. That sounds exhausting.

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
For real. The correct amount of time to think about the genitals of someone you don't want to sleep with is zero time.

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? And they have the nerve to try and make transgender people out to be the predators and perverts all while creepily obsessing over and fixating on total strangers' genitalia, to the point where they want to "examine" that part of their body to be certain.

Okay, then. Talk about projection.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-08 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
I am not insecure. They just belong in sports categories and shelters for trans women, NOT females that were born female.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
"Natal women" is far more ridiculous sounding than "cis," "people who menstruate," or any of the other terms you hate, and you will go down in history as a laughingstock.

(frozen comment) Re: A few questions.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
You are wrong.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ding dong you are wrong.

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-06 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"Natal women" sounds like "Assigned Female At Natal".