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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-01-13 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #6217 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6217 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-01-14 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
25 years ago "science" said homosexuality was a mental illness

Science can be corrupted and tainted by religious leanings and a lot of Christofascists are into the idea God has a plan for them, so if you think this didn't affect things, you're delusional and also probably lazy and think nothing you do matters so might as well not try.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-14 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
No-free-will-anon here. I'm an atheist. I'm also philosopher!anon. I spent literal years studying this. No free will. Sorry.

PS. Believe science. They're not always right, but fuck they're the only ones trying.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-14 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
What does "believe science" even mean, here? A study, a result, or a finding isn't necessarily true or worth believing simply because it has the word "science" attached to it. This is especially the case now, when many fields are continuing to grapple with the replication crisis; the deleterious effects of the "publish or perish" culture are coming to light; and the entire peer-review system is starting to come under fire for being corrupt at worst and incapable of detecting errors at best (many publications don't actually fully read and review the papers they publish, because the volume is so great that there simply isn't the time).

Science is a process, not a label. Good scientific practice in fact involves not simply believing; it involves questioning, critiquing, attempting to falsify. It involves skepticism. That is what truly separates the religious from the scientifically-minded.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-14 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, science is a process. When I say "believe science" I say believe in the process. Science didn't start out pure and get "corrupted" and "tainted" by religion. It started there, in the muck. The science you see now is after centuries of refining the process and creating work arounds as we discover more biases and shortcomings in the human brain. Are a lot of the current scientific findings wrong? Absolutely. Are you a scientist? Then go ahead and question the science in your field. Are not a scientist? Then listen to and believe the experts in that field. They know more than you. They, like you, know that their current conclusions are most likely flawed in some way if not completely wrong. But it's the best they have right now.

If science thought it was completely right it would stop.

That's what believe science means.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-14 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a real shit philosopher if you actually think anything in philosophy is an objective fact. Sorry to say it but 25 year of studying and you have no understanding of what the field of philosophical studies entails - that's real sad.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-14 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
.... Tell me you've never been a philosopher without saying you've never been a philosopher. Philosophers aren't scientists. They reason out a position and then draw blood defending that hill. You're a shit philosopher if you have no battle scars.

A smooth-skinned philosopher is real sad.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-14 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
What ayrt kinda didn't understand in 25 years of studying is that philosophy, at its core, is in many, many cases just a form of atheist religion and dogma - schools of thought that you believe in or don't and often are convinced that the one you do believe in is the correct one and others who don't believe in it are wrong.

(Anonymous) 2024-01-14 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you assuming 25 years of studying? Is that how long you've been studying philosophy? And you still think it's an atheist religion? Damn, maybe choose a different field....