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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-01-19 05:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #6223 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6223 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02. https://i.imgur.com/k4jeDa1.png
[OP marked NSFW for sex scene (movie)]



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03. [SPOILERS for Arknights]




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04. [SPOILERS for Strong Girl Nam-soon (character is Ryu Shi-Oh)]




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05. [SPOILERS for Live a Live]




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06. [SPOILERS for A History of Violence]




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07. [SPOILERS for season 2 of "What If"]

































Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #889.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2024-01-21 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It is possible to be concerned about both. I'm sure they exist, but I don't know anyone who says that the victims of Oct 7th deserved it. They're just saying that people have limited resources and limited energy and asking us to turn our attention from the objectively greater atrocity being committed right in front of our eyes to the lesser evil is almost always coming from someone who doesn't believe the genocide is a genocide. Naturally, we tell those people to fuck off. Not because we're virtue signalling, or we victim blame, or we just loooove rape. It's because we only have so much in us, and we don't want to deal with genocide apologists who are using the Oct 7th attack to justify mass murder, too.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2024-01-21 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I know several people who have said the victims of Oct 7th deserved it. Not trolls, they were people I had followed for years and had been smart and thoughtful and compassionate before. And in my circles, I frankly take it for granted at this stage, that if someone doesn't say a word about Israeli victims once (not of rape- we don't know for sure there was any rape- of the bombing) it's a dogwhistle for not caring or also believing they deserved it but not wanting to say it and hiding behind the excuse I also frequently hear, "I don't have to talk about Israeli victims because everyone already expects everyone else to feel sad about them."

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2024-01-21 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I also take it for granted at this stage that if someone doesn't say a word about the ongoing genocide it's a dogwhistle for not caring and also believing they deserved it but not wanting to say it. And sometimes people actually do come out and say it.

You are correct in that we don't know for sure there was any rape, but people suuuure do like to bring it up as if it were undisputed-happened-on-video and for sure an absolute justification for everything Israel is doing. Which doesn't help the victims of Oct 7th at all. Nor non-Israeli jews around the world. Everything just needs to fucking stop.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2024-01-22 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You're ignoring the "in my circles" context. Those circles are the very ones that almost everyone on F!S is in: fandoms that are primarily leftist, female, and heavily queer. And nobody in those circles overlooks talking about the Palestinian victims, so I've never run into this dogwhistle of not doing so. If we were speaking in a context of mainstream news coverage or our real life acquaintances' water cooler talk, then sure. Not talking about Palestinian victims may be a dogwhistle. But fandom is so heavily leaning in the opposite direction that I take the opposite type of silence as a dogwhistle there too.