[ SECRET POST #6241 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6241 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I’m glad that’s worked out for you.

Personally, I fell in love with Crowley, so I mainly watched his episodes. Some of the best are after series 5.

[(Anonymous)]

The first five seasons were not planned, that's a fandom myth.

Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

The creator, Eric Kripke, said to a reporter that he set out to tell a five-season storyline (https://www.buddytv.com/show-creator-eric-kripke-determined-to-end-supernatural-at-season-5/) and stopped being a showrunner after that.

Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

and the writers of LOST said that everything totally had a planned explanation

writers lie dude

Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Sure, writers can lie. But how is this particular one a lie? The main storyline wrapped at the end of the fifth season and then Kripke left as the showrunner. He may have been credited as executive producer or executive consultant going forward from that, but he was involved in other things from then. From that, it seems to me that he had told the story that he wanted to tell and moved on.

Regardless of whether it's a lie or not, it's clearly not a fandom myth. It's not something the fans made up, it's something the creator/writer/director/producer/showrunner said.

Re: Uh...

[(Anonymous)]

Anon who said that the first five seasons were not planned here: if Kripke meant that he wanted to stop his story after five seasons, maybe he was not lying. He could have still had some general direction he wanted the show to go into. Dean and Sam fighting on opposite sides, maybe?

But for instance, before the writers strike, he was planning to have Sam rescue Dean from his deal at the end of season 3; and go to the dark side as a consequence. Moreover, initially, Kripke was against the idea of introducing angels to the show. I think it was Sera Gamble who wanted them introduced. Considering how important they became to seasons 4 and 5, it contradicts the idea that he planned the whole thing from the beginning. It's not the only inconsistency. Not saying that I don't adore the first five seasons and their arc, it's still a very compelling story even with a few holes here and there. I probably rewatch it a lot more than the later seasons.

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[(Anonymous)]

Anon with the article link here, historically five television seasons was a specific goal for shows because, generally, five seasons meant at least 100 episodes, the magical number for syndication (not that there aren't shows that have been syndicated with a smaller number, it's just when a show gets put into syndication, they prefer to have a good number of episodes in rotation). I'm not sure whether this still holds true or how streaming has affected it. So, I think it's probable that five seasons was actually an intention.

I feel like there's a couple different likely possibilities that would count as planned, to me.
1) If there was just an outline with certain anchor points and endpoints to write to each season before the show went into production.
2) If first season had a detailed plan, the second (and maybe third) were sort of fleshed out outlines, and then broad strokes for the rest before the show went into production.

As to the angels, it didn't have to be angels that got them to where they were going, did it? Couldn't an opposing faction of demons or reapers or something else also have worked?

I mean, I could be completely and totally wrong, I did stop watching after season 4.

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[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you and I thought that it always meant that he was planning for (at least) five seasons and not that he planned them the way they turned out. If he did, there would have been hints at angels or at least Castiel or other major players earlier (apart from that one episode with the priest that now happily fits into canon).

I kind of resent that when I say that I stopped after season 5, people think it's because I respect Kripke and his masterplan too much to continue, when I actually started to just... not like the show (Idk I thought the fifth season went downhill after the highlight that was The End).
(I still watched a few episodes here and there cause damn didn't Destiel have me in a chokehold for a while, but luckily I wasn't super attached anymore by the end cause I would have been devastated instead of being amused by the memes)

[(Anonymous)]

SAME

[(Anonymous)]

There's maybe 2 episodes in seasons 6 and 7 that I enjoyed (namely French Mistake and My Heart Will Go On) but yeah, same. I even assumed Sam's mysterious return was a divine gift for the job well done, and as far as I'm concerned, that's the canon ending.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, whether only the first 5 were planned or not, I've tried to watch past season 6 like 3 to 4 times now and never make it lol.

I just really liked the 'monster of the week' style of the early seasons. Once it began to get overinvolved and over complicated I kind of stopped caring.

[(Anonymous)]

I got into Supernatural way late and tend to prefer later seasons because Cas is my favorite and I just wanted to see more of him.

[(Anonymous)]

So I sort of watched it backwards. Supernatural is one of thoses fandoms I had learned about in passing without actually watching the show.
To start with, I had enough context to read the AU fics that interested me. Then I was channel hopping and saw that they were showing series 12, which lead to me watching the whole of that and series 13.

Then I had started to watch it from the beginning and now I'm about to start series 3 lol.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

I watched a little of Season 6 but bounced off. Seeing it go on and on was like seeing a fanwork everyone got super into. I'm glad all y'all like it, but you can't convince me it's canon.

[(Anonymous)]

1-5 do have the definite feel of being planned out. I made it through 6 and 7 but gave up for years after. What I found with later seasons was that they did have some good episodes, and they were able to improve some aspects of the show that people had complained about loudly for a long time (like becoming much less sexist). But I can't sit all the way through those endless other seasons, when it was clear they were just trying to find ways to keep going, I need a customized playlist of just the ones I want to see.

[(Anonymous)]

Everything after 5 felt very tacked on, so I get you. I remember being excited it got renewed again and then being just...disappointed with what was made. I also grew from loving Castiel to downright hating him the most out of all the characters. Season 5 had a nice bittersweet end, so that's where I leave it in my brain.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't disagree.

[why_me_why_not]

I feel mostly the same. I caught some episodes here and there post season 5, but the end of season 5 tied things up nicely for me.