[ SECRET POST #6245 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6245 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Scarlet Nexus]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of Israel/Palestine conflict, genocide, etc]

































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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

bruh even they'd be wary if this is what OP opens with because they have very little reason to trust OP isn't using this as a mouthpiece. It's going to take a campaign at least to get people to trust you aren't actually a bigot when you suggest this kind of character, and that you really DO want to play together and not take up everyone's time with your loudmouthed bigot. Because OP can't even answer, in the original thread, why the other characters shouldn't kick theirs to the curb instead of coddling them through a redemption arc.

I wanna play certain characters in tabletop, but I haven't found the right campaign for the one I want to do. Because it requires specific things from the DM and the party both. I know my character might not ever happen. And that's sad but so fucking what.

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't it going a little too far assuming it's supposed to be "a mouthpiece" when OP literally stated the character is nothing like themselves and is supposed to change their mind during the game?

I'm not saying it isn't difficult to make it work or that anyone even can, I'm just a bit surprised at the conflation of ideas when they contradict what OP said themselves. It's one thing to say the character is a handful and might not be appropriate for a game but it's another to say they would necessarily represent some super secret evil racist alter ego that's going to get a kick out of playing, as someone phrased it above, "NotHitler", har har har, and play out their evil fantasies against the other players while twirling their ridiculous tiny dictator moustache. There's been quite a lot of indignation in this thread for something that doesn't seem to quite accurately represent the truth is all.

[meadowphoenix]

from my interpretation anon above is not saying that op will def be terrible, anon is saying that the people playing with op have to gamble on it, having played with other players who sound no different than op and were terrible and they won't want to.

unfortunately, it's an assumption people make based on being burnt in the past. there are many many rpg horrorstories where people say they're like OP and they are absolutely shit to play with in and out of game. "that's what my character would do!" is a meme for a ton of terrible reasons.

further..."my character will def redeem themselves" just isn't actually something you can guarantee in a gm driven dice rolling game with other players who can act on yours unless you're determined to ignore everyone else at the table, and that brings to mind other infamous dnd player types.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree wholeheartedly with how unpredictable things are (and are supposed to be) at the table that no one can say "this shall happen". And I also agree with your point that OP will probably want to find a specific set of players with interests similar to their own if they still have any hope to play this out.

I just think that, in the end, we do somehow circle back to the initial complaint, which was kind of related to the difficulty of finding these people when so many players appear to define roleplaying in such a way that this style of play would always be deemed inappropriate. It isn't, not in itself, even though quite a few people here have stated they think it is — which is totally fine at their table and not as a general rule.

[meadowphoenix]

in general i think its a bad idea to take conversations op's had and make assumptions about philosophies of those real people when there are so many different perspectives that could be at play (which i think many people have laid out here) when op is upset that people are doing that to them in those same conversations.

in order words, i don't think we can say that those players are deeming this roleplaying as always inappropriate. in many ways this could be about specific circumstances that are nevertheless common and the main context in which people will frame their responses. that doesn't actually mean they mean always.

[(Anonymous)]

At the end of the day, I guess it really is a big miscommunication problem where people are speaking from entirely different places, with entirely different expectations of concepts and of other people, who they are or who they "should" be. Seeing as I'm the anon who started the whole "I can see both sides" conversation, who understands both the frustration of not finding people with the same mindset for a certain sort of gameplay as well as being wary of someone who has too demanding a character idea to make sure it'll fit in with the rest of the group and allow everyone to have fun, I still stick to that. It was the hyperbole of some users when responding to the secret that I found strange but then again maybe expecting a little more nuance from the internet was my mistake, lmao. So thanks for not engaging in that way, it was a nice change.

[meadowphoenix]

haha yeah we can get hyperbolic here, but i agree there are expectations, some unsaid, that is making OP's character design hard to implement, and i really do hope OP finds a table. have a great day!

[meadowphoenix]

I agree with you that "character who changes morality" is a hard hard needle to thread in any direction without the trust of your table, but i do think there's gotta be a group of people out there who want to run something like d20s escape from bloodkeep somewhere.