[ SECRET POST #6249 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6249 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Definitely not for you, because, uh, you didn't get it....

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP.
Whenever someone states they don't like something and the reasons why, there is always someone who says they don't "get it", which is condescending and frustrating.
I found the film to be simplistic in regards to its feminism, vastly overly praised and agreed with Ryan Gosling's Ken, I 100% agree with OP. He received too easy a pass at the end.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't have to like it, and I'm not saying that OP didn't like it because they didn't get it. I said it wasn't for OP because they didn't get it. And they didn't, and it seems like you didn't either....

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's part OP didn't get it, and part they wanted the Barbies to be vengeful, not calm and forgiving, which they saw as being too passive.

They wanted to vent vicariously through the Barbies.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup, and some people don't get that - by wanting the Barbies to be vengeful, they didn't get the point of the movie.

[(Anonymous)]

We won't like everything even if it's popular. Like for the other side of the coin I saw a lot of positive press about Oppenheimer but I don't like biopics so no matter how good everyone else thinks it is, and I don't doubt it is good, it's just not for me because the general premise: it being a biopic, does not work for me.

And that's fine. We don't have to like the same things and that's okay. You're not 'missing' something OP it's just not for you.

[(Anonymous)]

I was ready to agree with you because I was also very underwhelmed by the movie but--yeah, you clearly didn't get the movie.

[(Anonymous)]

Barbie was the first movie in ages I was excited to see in theaters.... And then I didn't get around to it :(

[(Anonymous)]

Ken and the Kens got a "pass" because the Barbies weren't interested in punishing them. Hard as it is to imagine, wrongs, especially those sincerely apologized for, can be forgiven. Frankly, I'd like to know what "not getting away with it" looks like to OP.

Should the Barbies lock Ken up? Exile him? Kill him? What?

[(Anonymous)]

OP

That didn't seem like a sincere apology to me, but okay.

And, uh, I don't know, community service, cleaning up all the stuff they messed with (though I don't know exactly how the changes worked), making them all the Kens talk their issues out, making sure they understand what they did wrong and why it was wrong, making sure Ken understood that he is not entitled to Barbie's attention or affection, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

That's what Barbie's convo with him at the end was about....

[(Anonymous)]

Clean up what, exactly? Barbieland is magic. Thought becomes real there. If the Barbies want things neat and back to form, it does.

Ken realized he was not entitled to Barbie's attention and made it clear he understood that he needed to find out who he was without her. Did you want Barbie to gnash her teeth and scream at him that he was a jerk instead of quietly and gently talking out their issues? Why? That's not who she is.

And the Barbies didn't want or need to spend any more time and energy on the Kens. The Barbies are not the Kens' therapist or their mother. They gave the Kens the respect and the grace to deal with their problems and trusted that they could. It was an adult and compassionate choice, and that should be applauded.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT probably thinks anything less than that is coddling and throwing a party for Congratulations You Are A Decent Human Being.

[(Anonymous)]

My thing with Ryan Gosling's Ken, is how much he reminds me on Lance Bass. Stereotypically hot, but odd looking enough in the face to not quite get the bullseye. His face area is too big for his features. He's giving beady little mouse eyes on a shovel.

Thanks to the Secret Maker!

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for making my comment a secret.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I just really thought there should've been a lot more accountability for the things that Ken did. I think it's a better way to keep something like it from happening again. There were a lot of parallels that I saw with problematic real-life behavior and it really bothered me that the movie just seemed, to me, to let it go.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

And you think the way to deal with real-life problematic behavior is to saddle women with the responsibility of sitting men down and making them "work through their issues?"

It's not the job of women to manage men's emotions, and it isn't the job of one partner in a relationship to berate and punish the other until they change.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

The Kens chose peace in literally the best way possible: They quietly stepped aside when the Barbies took back control. They didn't deny they were wrong and didn't argue or complain when confronted about their behavior. The Kens learned their lesson because, in the FANTASY world of Barbie, men are capable of doing that without being punished and browbeaten first, just in case they get any funny ideas in the future.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

This happened in the barbie world... there are no jails, no cops, no harsh feelings. Barbie correctly noticed that Ken did all that because he didn't know who he was ("Maybe it's Barbie. And it's Ken.") Punishing him would do nothing but make him hate the Barbies. Encouraging him to figure out who he is solves all the issues; it decouples him from Barbie, who does not want him, and allows him to fulfill himself for himself. That was the whole point of the movie: that patriarchy harms both men and women. Punishing men for being hurt by the patriarchy helps no one.

So yeah, you didn't get it. It's fine to not like it, I didn't like it either, but at least I got it.