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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-02-16 06:35 am

[ SECRET POST #6250 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6250 ⌋

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Re: Character AI Anon from the other day

(Anonymous) 2024-02-16 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
A comic artist who's been hired to ink books for Marvel or DC has express permission from the owners of the IP to work with those characters. A person in fandom writing unlicensed fanfic does not.

Re: Character AI Anon from the other day

(Anonymous) 2024-02-16 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
A person in fandom writing unlicensed fanfic is also not making it for profit (they better fucking not be).

Re: Character AI Anon from the other day

(Anonymous) 2024-02-16 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Comic artists are still not the owners of the IP, though, and still don't deserve to have their work ripped off by a machine just because someone on the internet doesn't want to put in the actual effort and time investment that turns art into art, same as fanfiction authors. Nobody's time and effort in creating something should be seen as available for anyone else to feel entitled in just taking for themselves.

Re: Character AI Anon from the other day

(Anonymous) 2024-02-16 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's not what's being talked about. What's being talked about is the irony of using something in your work without permission and then getting mad when that work is also used without permission.

You're hung up on the ownership part, which isn't the thing at issue.

Re: Character AI Anon from the other day

(Anonymous) 2024-02-16 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. Other anon is having a different conversation.

Re: Character AI Anon from the other day

(Anonymous) 2024-02-16 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

No, that is EXACTLY the issue. It's called plagiarism.

Re: Character AI Anon from the other day

(Anonymous) 2024-02-17 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Finally, someone who gets it. That's it, it IS about plagiarism, thank you.

Re: Character AI Anon from the other day

(Anonymous) 2024-02-17 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say discussing the concept of ownership is kind of a big deal considering you want to talk about permission or lack thereof. Permission must be given by someone who can give that permission, hence why talking about ownership is important. If I, random person on the internet, were to permit you, other random anon, to write and sell novel adaptations of Star Wars, that permission would be void because I do not own that IP.

We can't talk permission if we don't talk ownership, one thing is inextricably linked to the other.

As for the comics argument, the point was that the publisher might own the rights to the characters an artist works on, but that doesn't mean the artist isn't allowed to be mad on their own behalf if someone steals their work even if it isn't their "original" work featuring their original characters.