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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-02-27 08:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #6262 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6262 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
That doesn't seem accurate to me? I can't write prose for shit but I have so many ideas that I would absolutely love to read stories about if they were written by someone with halfway decent prose skills. Maybe that's a "me" problem but idk, having compelling ideas seems like the easiest part of writing. Making it sound good is hard.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
I’m not familiar with Rebecca Yarros, but Sarah J Maas writes books for nonreaders. Someone recommending her work is a giant red flag for me.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
I've not read either of them, can you elaborate a little on "writes books for non readers"?

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Purple prose, simple problems with overly complex solutions, overdone tropes…that’s just the little I picked up when I really tried to read A Court of Thorns and Roses because someone in my circle loved it so much and was desperate for someone to talk to about it.
I admit part of my disdain for the author is likely tied to the fact the person I’m talking about is the one from my circle that I liked the least. And I later learned the series were the first books she had read in years, cementing my impression nonreaders are the ones who are so impressed by them. And none of the avid readers I know can finish the first book. It’s just very poorly written but I can understand it being exciting and opening a new world for someone who doesn’t read much.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
You think someone not reading books means they're toxic or dangerous?

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
Where did you get that?

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
Not at all. But their book recommendations should be taken with a grain of salt.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
how dare you say we piss on the poor!

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think people who doesn’t read are a terrible target audience for an author trying to get a trad deal.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-02-28 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
i fundamentally disagree that pretty sentences aren't sometimes what holds people in bad books, that that's easy, or that it's hard(er) to hold people's attention. people read lazy writing all the time, because the itch it scratches scratches the itch!

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Different audiences. Might be worth a look to see what audiences don't care about shitty prose skills and ask yourself if you want to be writing for them....
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-02-28 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
I once read a fic writer who had no discernible authorial voice. Everything he wrote that wasn’t dialogue was bland and emotionless. But he used this to his advantage, focusing on in-character dialogue and using the bare minimum of non-dialogue to bridge the sentences. It was a good story, because he focused on his strength rather than his weakness.

I haven’t read Maas, but if her prose isn’t very pretty, maybe she needs to emphasize her prose less.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That first statement comes across like a version of the old, "are you a successful author/musician/actor? No? Well then you don't know what you're talking about and you can't criticize My Fav!"

But also, I think writing decent prose is much, much harder than capturing interest.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-28 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like knowing where to emphasize prose and when to hold back is the secret to being able to keep the audience's attention. It's not so much an either this or that approach but more when to utilize certain tools for the best ways to express oneself.