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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-07-29 04:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #936 ]


⌈ Secret Post #936 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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WARNING: Ranty and spoilery

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I managed not to like either ending that much. The first made no sense whatsoever. I didn't get the sense that Shinji was being supported by his friends. Instead it seemed like the world had become unraveled and reality completely unknit to the point where everything that came before no longer exists and never existed. That with a big dose of WTF and liberal smearing of insanity.

I absolutely hate endings like that. It's like the writer painted himself into a plot corner and rather than come up with a solution, just threw up a wall of pseudosignificant philosophical wordsalad and called it good.

The second ending had a clear plot, which was an improvement, but managed to make the characters so unlikably OOC (compared to how they behaved in the rest of the episodes) and scorch the Earth so badly that essentially it's Rocks-Fall-Everyone-Dies. The "I hate my fans" comes through pretty thickly.

Overall, I think Evangeleon had a huge amount of promise, but got too "edgy and emo for the sake of being edgy and emo" for my tastes.

Re: WARNING: Ranty and spoilery

[identity profile] sjazzmreow.livejournal.com 2009-07-30 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
(I've probably worded this really badly, as I so didn't get enough sleep last night, but I'll try)

I took the original ending more as Shinji finding self worth and self acceptance rather than being supported by his friends, and in the case of either ending, I think it's hard to judge in terms of characterisation, as both are so firmly planted in Shinji's point of view.

I think it helps if you don't think of it so much in terms of concrete plot, but more as about the mental dimension. It was never about the giant robots or the angels or instrumentality, so much as it is about the characters and their internal world, especially Shinji's. The ending of the series and even a lot of EoE feels so much like a very messed up person stuck in their own head, which, given how Anno himself was struggling with Depression and many of the same sorts of issues Shinji had, is pretty appropriate really.