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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-03-03 03:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #6267 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6267 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-03-03 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
So, disclaimer, I think I might be OP but I genuinely can't remember whether or not I am. But with that said!

Basically fictional works exist within genres. They do things certain ways because that's the purpose of the genre. That's what readers/viewers are interested in the genre for. If you're reading a classic Golden Age whodunnit, you are there to see the detective investigate the crime in the big country house and then call all of the suspects together to lay out his theory. That's the basic structure of the genre.

And I think nerd fandom in the Internet era has a real bad habit of analyzing media as though it's a real world and forgetting that, and not acknowledging that's what they're doing. So for instance, you look Batman and Superman and you try to analyze them as characters and you say "why do they run around punching out costumed bad guys, that doesn't make any logical sense." But costume superhero action is the genre that they're in. Their world is constructed around having superpowered people in costumes punch each other. That's why people consume the genre.

Of course, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with this. It can be a fun game (like the Sherlockian game in ACD Sherlock Holmes fandom) or an interesting deconstruction (like for instance Watchmen). But I think nerd fandom discourse has taken it to an extreme and does it to a fault, to the point where it often feels like people aren't even aware that's what they're doing.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-04 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I agree and I think you’ve summed this up well.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-04 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
I have also noticed adult readers of children's literature getting exceedingly worked up over tropes of children's literature (like absent/dead/ineffectual parents or other adult authorities.) They get mad that the children are put in a position to have to save the day, instead of the adults doing so. Like, what do they think the child readers want to read about? And what the hell kind of books did *they* read when they were children??

(Anonymous) 2024-03-04 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, yes, this drives me crazy! Adults reading children's fiction and applying their adult sensibilities and perspectives to it... For goodness sake, it's not written for you! It's written to be fantasy for children, who spend their free time making up adventures in which they're the heroes! It is going to have "child logic," not adult logic.

What the fuck would a children's book/show/movie even be if the adults were present and effective? "Billy, get back inside. No, you can't go 'save the world;' you're a child. Now sit down and eat your dinner." *roll credits*

(Anonymous) 2024-03-04 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
I read about one's where the kids got sensible adults to solve the problem. I am very old though.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-04 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
Like... I think it's fair to say 'where are the adults??' in criticism of the *adult characters who are failing Our Heroes*! But the people who say 'where are the adults??' to criticize the *author*, that's wild to me. Like, that's the genre!