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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-09 07:11 pm

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[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2024-04-10 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I watched a crime case video on Ruby Franke and I was so pissed off about how awful she was. And also the cult leader lady she fell in with truly boiled my blood as someone who once had a very toxic therapist for a good while.

But still it always shocks me how these folks will just boldly broadcast how abusive they are to their kids like it's no big deal Then it just hits me that they honestly don't think the things they're doing is abuse.. It's terrifying honestly.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-10 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen a few clips of her Youtube vids and it was bizarre, honestly. She... told on herself? Basically low key bragging about how she made her five year old pack her own lunch for school, and if the kid didn't do it, she didn't get to eat. Talking about the teacher who expressed concern about her kid like the teacher was the unreasonable one, and saying how she hoped nobody fed her kid or gave her a lunch because she had to learn her lesson. FIVE YEARS OLD.

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2024-04-10 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
I know right. FIVE. Like literally not understanding that her JOB as a PARENT is to help a young child because they're so little they can't take that responsibility. It's like the whole POINT of being a PARENT.
and don't forget the whole thing where she basically took her son's room "privilege" away for months for a prank on a sibling. Like... thats insane. When I was 19 and said something very cruel to my sister because I was a bitchy teenager , I got stuck in my room grounded without internet for a day.

A day.

And this kid lost his whole ROOM for MONTHES . His personal space.

I swear ,people like Ruby Franke want to become parents so they can have power over someone. I'm convinced. It's a fucking power fantasy for some people.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-10 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're right. I think it's also a sad case of being in a religion where being a wife and mother is venerated above all things, and how that can go really, really wrong when a narcissist has no other identity or accomplishments.

I don't know if you saw/heard the jailhouse phone call from her accomplice, but that crazy lady was actually moaning in self-pity about how nobody understands her and implied that it was all one big misunderstanding from people who were being too harsh on her tough love child raising methods. She literally complained about how making a child sleep on the floor was considered child abuse. It's like... no, but restraining them with ropes and duct tape and depriving them of food and water is definitely child abuse, you psycho.

Franke's lawyers spun it that she was under that lady's influence, but honestly... they were two of a kind. I don't think Franke was under anyone's spell, her YT channel demonstrates that she was already well down the road to mistreating her children for channel traffic. There's no way you see your kid being duct taped to weights and punish them for "stealing" water from a garden hose because they're thirsty and you refuse to take care of them and think well, that's a bit strict but totally okay.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-10 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I saw a "20/20" show about this case - I wasn't familiar with it before the episode, so it was all new to me, and it was fascinating and horrifying in equal measure. And yet I wasn't surprised by so much of it, either, like, of coursethere's a super religious element to this kind of thing, of course it's got this creepy cult-like aspect (the accomplice's videos reminded me so much of those MLM "self-help" meetups that are basically a cover for drawing people into cults)...it just all seemed so textbook.

And yeah, the accomplice was a real piece of work, holy shit. I did have to laugh at the sheer irony of her winding up in a jail that was literally called Purgatory, though. I also wholeheartedly agree that Ruby isn't as manipulated as her defense has tried to claim. The accomplice simply tapped into elements of Ruby that wre already there. It felt like one of those "folie a deux" type scenarios, two people basically feeding off each other.

And yeah, I don't follow YouTubers in general, and I've never delved into the parenting types of videso that people iike Ruby did, but they've always been off-putting to me precisely because of the fact the kids are pretty much shoved into the spotlight, and then you take that and the way social media can totally fuck people up and the horrible shit that people encounter on participate in on there and..yeah. I can't say I'm surprised that a story like Ruby's results from it. And I've no doubt she's not the only parent of that sort who's got some abusive history lurking somewhere. I do not get the point or appeal of this kind of thing at all and I too fully agree there needs to be a LOT more regulation and cracking down on this kind of thing.