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Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 04:28 am (UTC)(link)Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 07:16 am (UTC)(link)Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 08:43 am (UTC)(link)Okay? What does that have to do with Christians judging people who aren't married/don't have kids?
Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)Christianity is big on celibacy duh. Priests, monasteries, etc.
Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)I think Catholicism more than Christianity in general is big on celibacy. IDK I was raised catholic and I'm not North-American and celibacy is a big thing for us. I look at protestants and it's not the same at all ? Like priests can have families and it's pretty strange to me... doesn't really make sense at all.
Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)MMMH, you are right on the monk point and almost any religious having their version of them (the nuns and celibacy dichotomy is especially prominent), but larger families does not correlate with celibacy rates.
In a religious context, if you don't have a wife/husband/partner you are going to be celibate because people usually don't have sex outside of marriage because it's deemed "wrong" (or have sex and hide it for shame).
If you are religious and married you have kids, often times this result in a large family (because highly religious people often don't use contraception and/or are against abortion). It's not really correlated.
Curious, though, my perspective is that catholic people are way stricter with celibacy vows, but I wonder if it's just my bias. It probably is!
Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)Orthodox Christianity isn't, speak for yourself. Priests are actually looked down if they don't have a wife with million of kids.
But also there is this interesting divide. It's OK to be celibate if you do it in the name of the god. If you don't want children just because you are trash human
Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)celibacy is voluntarily not having sex. ever. It absolutely has nothing to do with having protected sex (which correlated with lower birth rates), though...
@ nonny above
>>But also there is this interesting divide. It's OK to be celibate if you do it in the name of the god. If you don't want children just because you are trash human
EH, religion is all about nonsensical contradiction. but in this case it's simply the fact that if you have sex then the sex should ultimately be an act of love to God, so it should produce children. every thing you do should be a service to God, be it not having sex (so it's a "punishment" and it cleanse the soul to love God even more purely) or having sex (you are procuring more sheep to God and enlarging His flock).
if you have sex just because it's fun it's considered a sin of the flesh. You are just indulging in the pleasure and "not suffering" or not "producing life".
At least, this is what my catholic upbringing teached me. (I myself am not religious)
(in this incredible debate non religious celibate people don't exist because every God loving person know that asexuality et al. doesn't exist *rolling eyes*)
Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-22 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-21 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)There is a word of differences between monasteries and priests. Oh tell me more about religion practiced in my fucking country.
Anyway, I don't know why are you so hang on celibacy since church has a great divide between people choosing not to have children and people choosing to serve almighty god.
Re: Social conditioning
(Anonymous) 2024-04-22 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)Surprise, you're not the only one living in an Orthodox Christianity country so you don't get to claim any kind of expertise.