[ SECRET POST #6318 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6318 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

As a person who hated TBBT and liked... *some* of the IT Crowd (in spite of that one ep-- but at the time I was watching it, it somehow wasn't the most transphobic episode of a comedy series I had to suffer)... to me I think the big difference was that in what I saw of TBBT, none of the characters seemed to like or support each other?? I saw one where everyone was being mean to Howard, and I saw a couple where everyone was bullying Sheldon, and a part of an ep where Raj was the butt of the joke, and in none of those did any of them really stick up for each other in any meaningful way.

The IT Crowd certainly has its issues, but Roy and Moss had a solid friendship and even when the characters ragged on each other or got into fights about something, there was also the general feeling that they would have each other's backs.

Both shows had at least one actor that I've liked in other things, and I liked the TBBT theme song, but I just really felt BAD every time I watched it, whereas IT Crowd only made me feel BAD like... twice? While also having bits that, despite my general hate of Graham Lineham, I do wind up quoting a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, i feel like it goes both ways. Agree with you and OP.

[luxshine]

Personally I think it may also have to do with the fact that the IT Crowd wasn't promoted as to being "For" Nerds where the nerds weren't the butt of the joke. Which is the issue I had with TBBT (besides you know, the utter lack of knowledge of a lot of actual fandom things like how to get badges for SDCC!)

[(Anonymous)]

There is so much of this show that I don't remember, lol.

[(Anonymous)]

IT Crowd always sucked, it was never funny, and I can't speak for anyone else but I've been perfectly willing to criticize it for years.

I think the reason that IT Crowd gets away with it is because it does have a genuinely amazing cast. Not that TBBT has a bad cast, but IT Crowd has quite simply one of the greatest sitcom casts of all time and I don't think that's an exaggeration.

But the writing and direction and so on are SO bad all the way through.

[(Anonymous)]

What about the IT Crowd's humor makes it feel like it's made by nerds, for nerds? I mostly recall it being what would be considered as really stereotypical jokes about what the secret describes - social awkwardness galore, nerd interests being lame, no love life because nerds, etc. etc. Very much in line with Big Bang Theory.

[(Anonymous)]

Big agree-- spelling doesn't bother me, and if someone is writing fic in English when it's not their first language, then I'm impressed enough to let wrong-regionalisms slide.

I've got one friend whose backbutton issue was if one character whose speech patterns are English almost to the point of parody said 'sweater' instead of 'jumper', then the fic wasn't going to be worth reading-- either because there would be future jarring Americanisms, or because there just wouldn't be any care given to what makes that character's voice sound right.

Which, to me, is the big thing-- if the characters don't sound like themselves, whether it's British characters sounding American or American characters sounding British, it takes me out of the story. Since my current fandom AND my last main fandom before it were both set mostly in the American midwest, of course I saw more 'I've not' instead of 'I haven't' (and every single time I'd be like HAVE YOU NEVER ACTUALLY PAID ATTENTION TO HOW THE CHARACTERS TALK?), but of course it's just as jarring in the other direction when it means the character sounds not only not like themselves, but like they're not even in the same country.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

I think the writing on TBBT might actually be better than the writing on IT Crowd, now that I think about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I think most people forget (or fail to notice in the first place) the misogyny. It comes from a time where "hur hur ladieez love shoooooes amirite?" and "pretty lady so dumb about computers" was top tier comedy and socially acceptable. Never mind the hilaaaaaarious joke about how being on her period turned her into a demon.

[(Anonymous)]

I love the cast of The IT Crowd, but it was a crap show.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

What are your least favorite americanisms/britishisms/etc to see in fic?

[(Anonymous)]

I always find "mum" to be so jarring.

Re: What are your least favorite americanisms/britishisms/etc to see in fic?

[(Anonymous)]

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fancy, cuppa, bloke

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds like we just had very different takeaways.

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Re: What are your least favorite americanisms/britishisms/etc to see in fic?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm american and call my mother mum...

For me it is things like "going to hospital" vs "going to the hospital"

Apartment vs flat. Jumper vs sweater. Truck vs lorry. Trunk vs boot. Mates vs friends. All things that in the wrong fandom can totally throw me off.

[(Anonymous)]

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Re: What are your least favorite americanisms/britishisms/etc to see in fic?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm in a U.S.-set fandom and there are a ton of active Brit writers.

WHILST is a dead giveaway. Other phrases that make me roll my eyes are: Jumper; taking the piss; having a go; you lot; ending a sentence with "yeah?"

Re: What are your least favorite americanisms/britishisms/etc to see in fic?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god the "yeah?" thing threw me so much until I realized it was a Brit thing. I could not get a handle on why this one author had all of their (American) characters end their sentences that way.

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[(Anonymous)]

I tried IT Crowd, because I do enjoy some good British humor, but it just wasn't funny. It was weird and off-putting. I dislike TBBT but it's still a "leave TBS running in the backgroud while I do other things" staple because of Penny, her character is the only interesting one (Bernadette and Leonard being 2nd and 3rd I guess). She became exactly how a midwestern young woman finding herself in SoCal while surrounded by academic nerds should be. She had a life, an arc, a personality, and the best one-liners. The nerds in the show were just there to prop her up. Between the utter Flanderization (or even in cases Moe-ization) of the supporting cast and their general unlikeability (I have known people like Sheldon, they are terrible people and so is he), it's best to just view the series as The Penny Show. Until the final season, and fuck Lorre for that fucking finale, so gross.

[(Anonymous)]

In my youth, I used to feel very guilty for how much I liked a lot of Pink Floyd’s The Wall, including (or especially) the parts from the POV of the neo-Nazi characters and various abusive figures.

I still don’t play or sing certain songs in public, but I mostly got over the guilt.

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Fixed!

[scissorsevered]

Even in the United States you see people using wildly different regional slang in their fics sometimes. I'm from Rhode Island and was so confused when i read the term "kitty-corner", which is apparently a thing in the midwest and some northeast states.