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I always find "mum" to be so jarring.

homie, soccer

fancy, cuppa, bloke

I'm american and call my mother mum...

For me it is things like "going to hospital" vs "going to the hospital"

Apartment vs flat. Jumper vs sweater. Truck vs lorry. Trunk vs boot. Mates vs friends. All things that in the wrong fandom can totally throw me off.

I'm in a U.S.-set fandom and there are a ton of active Brit writers.

WHILST is a dead giveaway. Other phrases that make me roll my eyes are: Jumper; taking the piss; having a go; you lot; ending a sentence with "yeah?"

Oh god the "yeah?" thing threw me so much until I realized it was a Brit thing. I could not get a handle on why this one author had all of their (American) characters end their sentences that way.

Jesse Armstrong, lol?

(The head writer of Succession does that with his American characters, but he gave them an English mother, so it's fine.)

"Whilst" feels oddly pretentious to me, as if it was archaic even in UK English and so the user is trying to sound posh (is it archaic? If it isn't, I'll try and get used to it).

I was curious too, so found this:

We don’t say whilst instead of while. But we do sometimes say while instead of whilst.

We say while when explaining that something happened at a particular time or in a particular context:

“I received an upsetting email while I was on holiday.”

If, however, the key thing to get across is the simultaneous occurrence of two things, rather than just the context of when one thing happened, then in formal speech we use whilst:

“You shouldn’t be trying to make a phone call whilst driving.”

But in informal speech we often just tend to use while so as not to sound overly formal.

I don't have any that I dislike, truthfully. I actually love to see both.

Happy International English Language Day today by the way. Hee hee.

https://nationaltoday.com/international-english-language-day/

I cannot deal with "mom" in fantasy settings. It just sounds so modern.

characters who aren't British should not be saying "cross" to mean in a bad mood. They shouldn't say "chap" or "lad" either.

I'm a Canadian who lived in England for almost 10 years.

Nothing phases me. S, Z, no u, yes u, piss or wee or piddle or pee. It's all English to me.

This is bizarre to me! So because you've lived different places you can't differentiate cultural language differences in writing or characterizations?

Mightn't. Sounds so wrong in American English.

And it's already been said, but another vote for "was sat".

However, I will say that I'm enjoying "Uni" slowly coming to America. Especially for those of us who did a community college-to-four year track and want to differentiate the institutions without sounding braggadocios - "Oh, when I was in UNIVERSITY".

I've set a couple recent fics in London, and I tried so hard to not use American slang. I thought I was being so smart and so clever... and I just recently realized I'm definitely not fooling anyone because I'm still using American spellings of common words (color, realize, etc.). 😂

Least favorite is probably "biscuits" to mean "cookies" because "biscuits" are a completely different food to me. "Chips" being "fries" I can kind of make sense of, but not "biscuits."

Biscuits make me think of dog biscuits if I'm not thinking of the kind that are like rolls.

I know a sweater is a jumper in England, but I still think of what they would call a pinafore as a jumper (a little girl's dress/kindergarten teacher style smock thing).

I've written in UK and US fandoms and have lived in both countries for a number years working as a writer, and I've still made an occasional mistake in fic.

Aw, man, any time there are babies, so many differences.

Nappies vs. diapers
Pram, pushchair vs. stroller
Dummy vs. pacifier
Baby grow suit, snapsuit, creeper vs. onesie
Cot vs. crib
Creche vs. daycare, nursery

"rubber" to refer to condoms or snogging/shagging.

I can't separate snogging/shagging to carpets. It's the least unsexy thing to think about while two characters are making out or whatever.

A little off topic but back when I was in a fandom in the late 2000s, I found non-Brits (especially the Americans) who used "mum" to be fake ass bitches who were trying way too hard to show off how...sophisticated(?) they were

I noticed this too.

Don't lie to me and say "I've always said mum," because no you fucking didn't, Ashley.

-bloke, cuppa, shagging and snogging for American characters. It's just... wrong.
-overly using "fuck" for UK characters. they have a lot more swear than fuck and i love them for that. this is especially true for Scottish characters. never heard a IRL Scottish person saying fuck if they were not interacting with other international people.

BTW I'm European and English is my third language. Learned it in school with British rules, spelling and words. Then got into the internet and North-American (and even Australian) fandom and now my English is all mixed up. My base accent is British with my native language inflection, but I just use the slang that comes easier to me at any giving moment.
Ain't got time to get my English "proper" when I speak. I try my best when I write my fanfiction, especially to give the characters their proper voice, but reading some of the examples above, I just don't get many of the differences. Sweater/Jumper, Biscuit/Cookies, Flat/Apartment they are the same to me, eh.

Same
English is my second language and we also learned British English but it was a long time ago. A long. Time. So all this sweaters or apartments or lifts are just synonyms for me

Oh, I FULLY backbutton out of any SPN fic where Dean Winchester says 'I've not', like it's not that it's a britishism specifically as it is a sign that the writer has not actually listened to how the character speaks, so why should I trust any aspect of their characterization?

'Mum' is also VERY jarring when the character in question is a midwestern guy who was not raised on old british TV shows on PBS and brit kid lit, but for some reason 'I've not' is ALWAYS the one I see first. I think the thing about 'Mum' is, if you HEAR the character in question say 'Mom', like... what's not clicking?

I always feel bad when I'm like 'AMERICANS NEVER TALK LIKE THIS', because I *was* raised on PBS and British kid lit, and now as an adult a lot of my internet social circle is British, so I *do* periodically say 'whilst' and 'mum' and 'I've not'-- I wouldn't say I *say* 'mum' frequently, but I do often type it out that way when chatting about family stuff with British friends, kind of the way I might start mirroring someone's accent after listening to them talk a while. But like... I'm a very specific weird little man, and Dean Winchester is a DIFFERENT specific weird little man.

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