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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-27 01:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #6322 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6322 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* I agree that Reputation isn't particularly goth or punk in any real sense, but I also completely understand why she's describing it that way. It was clearly produced from a dark place; a place of having had her character and her actions maliciously misrepresented in front of an unfathomably large audience. The fact that pop is her medium and therefore her darkest, most mutinous and defiant thoughts and feelings still ultimately came out as upbeat, high-production pop songs doesn't negate that she produced that work from a place of seething anger and defiance.

The way that she's become arguably the biggest single musical artist on the planet while continually calling the shots on as much of her career as is remotely feasible, in an industry that very much does not encourage that level of buck-stops-here agency in its talent, is punk enough for me.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Punk is actively, aggressively anti authoritarian and anti system. Billionaires *are* the system. I don't understand the way that people love to water down or actively change the definition of punk these days. Simply maintaining control of her pop princess career isn't punk. Simply being angry that someone played her dirty on a personal level isn't punk, and the majority of that album was about romantic relationships anyway. If she ever takes any kind of actual non-milquetoast and *consistent* political stance, maybe I'll revise my opinion. But I know that she won't.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
She isn't punk in the least. She's ANTI-PUNK. LMAO she doesn't het to call herself anti-establishment when she IS the establishment.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Punk is a musical movement that is SPECIFICALLY against the music industry run by mega-corporations that promotes physically pretty artists from wealthy backgrounds and tunes down all their rough edges to make them as marketable as possible.

Just because you write some angry or hurt songs does not make you punk, and the fact that some people think so just shows how little it's understood.

The fact that pop is her medium and therefore her darkest, most mutinous and defiant thoughts and feelings still ultimately came out as upbeat, high-production pop songs doesn't negate that she produced that work from a place of seething anger and defiance.

OK, she made some sad angry pop songs. There have always been lots of sad, angry pop songs.

That's not what punk is.