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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-27 01:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #6322 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
She seems oblivious to her privilege but I may be getting that more from her fans than from her. Every twentysomething young woman I know is a Swifty and they talk about her like she’s some sort of god who had to overcome monumental adversities. But she’s just the white daughter of millionaires who paid out the ass to make her into a billionaire. That’s not really anything special. Even the whole drama about the masters of her recordings was nothing but a money making scheme. Her parents sold their rights and instead of buying the masters she vilified the owner and re-recorded everything to make even more money off the songs she’d been making money off of for years. And somehow sold it to her fans that it was a case of the little guy triumphing over Evil Big Business. The same business her parents funded to set up her career. She was never at any kind of disadvantage at any point in her life, she was literally born a millionaire \_(°•°)_/

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Afaik she tried to buy the masters but they only would have sold them to her if she had signed for an additional 6 albums which, quite frankly, is pretty sucky if you want to divorce from a label.

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, they didn't want to sell them to her unless she agreed to stay with them.

No, it's not an epic tale of the little guy triumphing over Big Business, but I have a hard time seeing anything wrong with what she did.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Taylor was signed to RCA Records at 13 years old with an artist development deal.

Sony/ATV Publishing House hired her as their youngest-ever songwriter at 14.

In 2005 she was scouted by Scott Borschetta who was planning to start his own record label, and when he did, she was one of the first artists he signed. Taylor's father purchased a 3% stake in the company shortly thereafter. Wiki estimates Scott Swift's investment was approximately $120K, though I've seen estimates as high as $500K.

In 2018, Variety reported that Swift's catalog constituted around 80 percent of Big Machine's revenue.

When Borschetta sold Big Machine, Scott Swift's share of the buyout was approximately $15M.

But she’s just the white daughter of millionaires who paid out the ass to make her into a billionaire. That’s not really anything special.

So by your logic, it sounds like everyone whose well-off parents pay for their post secondary education also deserve to have their years of hard work, skill, and determination dismissed out of hand.

My parents are working poor and I've never received any financial support from them because there was never any to give, but I would never dismiss someone else's skill and hard-earned achievements simply because they had the good fortune to have fewer barriers in their way than I did.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
And none of that would have meant jack-shite if she wasn't also REALLY FUCKING GOOD at what she does.

Jayzus, go suck a lemon.

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I hate using this term because most the time it's just juvenile and dumb, but she really is a poser. I've seen the jokes about the asylum lyrics in her new album, and honestly, I get why they're making them. I think she's trying very hard to add depth that just isn't there.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It's hard to think of a pop singer that isn't a poser. Not that this makes her not one, but it kinda comes with the pop entertainer territory.

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The criticism of her lyrics on TTPD is so weird to me because so many people frame it as her ART and refuse to even entertain the idea that she has a sense of humor. I genuinely think she would join in on finding the lyrics funny, especially out of context.

I keep seeing people trying to come up with a parody of the lyrics and I'm like, give Taylor a month or so to catch her breath. Her parody of her own lyrics is going to be epic.

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a large and loud chunk of Taylor's fanbase that likes to dress her up in different personas like a Bratz doll in Monster High clothing. And it's always awkward and ungenuine when she tries to play to that crowd.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get the absolute worship of her by fans who think she can do no wrong. But I do think she's a good singer and a savvy woman who knows what sells. Also, some of her songs have really spoken to me. I think part of her popularity is just that she writes music that can seem relatable to a lot of people.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

She's an extremely good pop songwriter whose sensibility appeals to many people. There's not that much more to say about her really.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Idolization and blind worship of celebrities, especially musicians, has been a thing since time immemorial. The Swift fanbase is no more rabid, crazy, or blind in their devotions than the Beatle-maniacs were. The only difference is the modern scourge of 24/7 internet access.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Who gives a shit?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
About Taylor Swift? A lot of people, actually.

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
There is literally nothing less punk than Taylor Swift.

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there's plenty of things that are less punk than Taylor Swift

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that's just hyperbole. Off the top of my head, HOAs, Cybertrucks and vegan leather are all less punk than Taylor Swift.

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
This.

Punk was a movement that rebelled against corporate pop/rock made by millionaires and dominating the radio because of record label payola. The fact that some corporate rock artists were genuinely good - and they were - doesn't erase the fact that punk was a DIY movement from musicians with no money who wanted to create scenes and build community outside of that capitalist structure. They also made music that was raw: no autotune if it had existed then.

Taylor Swift is good at the corporate pop she makes, no hate there, I enjoy it because she IS really good. But she's never played a punk note in her life.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It'd be actually punk- more than you think- if she stood up publicly for the Israeli women that had been raped by Hamas and financially supported all the Israeli families that have now been displaced out of the kibbutzim, then also supported the Israeli Arabs that have been killed by Hamas too.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
what

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That would spell the end of her career. People would gather to destroy her albums a la the Dixie Chicks.

Secret op here

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
My secret is not the space for anyone to be politically grandstanding, especially when you are so clearly trying to start a fight

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* I agree that Reputation isn't particularly goth or punk in any real sense, but I also completely understand why she's describing it that way. It was clearly produced from a dark place; a place of having had her character and her actions maliciously misrepresented in front of an unfathomably large audience. The fact that pop is her medium and therefore her darkest, most mutinous and defiant thoughts and feelings still ultimately came out as upbeat, high-production pop songs doesn't negate that she produced that work from a place of seething anger and defiance.

The way that she's become arguably the biggest single musical artist on the planet while continually calling the shots on as much of her career as is remotely feasible, in an industry that very much does not encourage that level of buck-stops-here agency in its talent, is punk enough for me.

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-04-28 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
yeah to people who only recognize the words "punk" or "goth" in terms of their mainstream use, hip hip and electronic being associated with either a marginalized race (regardless of the fact it's more pop than pop these days) or a ~niche~ subculture is counter-culture, and counter-culture is all they think punk and goth represent. I wouldn't be surprised if this was true for both TS and her audience.