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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-27 01:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #6322 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6322 ⌋

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
And none of that would have meant jack-shite if she wasn't also REALLY FUCKING GOOD at what she does.

Jayzus, go suck a lemon.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I appreciate you so sincerely for this, just sayin'. <3
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
;)

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
She wasn’t really fucking good though. That’s why Sony was dropping her. And why her parents spent millions to create a record label that was, to start, just for her. And another half million to promote the first album on that label. Which they made a mint from selling years down the line and she became a billionaire by portraying herself as having her masters kept from her.

She’s good. But she’s not the amazing talent her fans make her out to be. She isn’t relatable, but she knows how to portray herself that way. And she’s really fucking good at making herself out to be the victim.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
*rolls eyes*
Yes. Like I said. She's GOOD AT WHAT SHE DOES, including writing songs, singing them, and making a persona people like.

Why's that make you so butt-hurt, Anon? It's just so...silly.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
I’m not butt hurt though? I just said she’s oblivious to her privilege. She wouldn’t have this success or be a billionaire if she hadn’t been born a millionaire. And I think her fans are stupid for buying the “poor average little girl fighting the big evil music producers” BS she sells.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
You sound SO butt hurt. So 'guess I'll go eat worms'. Jeez, take a break.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Jared Paladecki was never going to fuck you, and Taylor won't either.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
................okay?

I'm a Dean girl. And i don't wanna fuck anybody. Run along, now.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
This wasn’t me! And I’ve been around long enough that even if I made a stupid comment like that, I know you’re a Dean girl. I only caught the early part of of the Jared Padelicki thread last week and never even noticed you on it.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I was on it. My work schedule has been so nutty, I rarely see F!S in real time.
What was the JP thread?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
I’m really not though. I think you took some of the replies to my comment as being part of my comment maybe? Taylor Swift was born a millionaire. Her parents funded her success to an extreme degree and made a mint off their efforts. She has portrayed herself as David going against Goliath and her fans are stupid for eating that up. But I also think she might believe it herself.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Well, everyone being Anon does make for some confusion.
But, sorry - even this reply sounds just...bitter. Who cares? She got a leg up. She made the most of it. She has talent, and tons of fans. Good on her. Her impact on my life is so minuscule, it doesn't even register. You're fighting a war nobody else seems to even know is happening.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha no, I’m not bitter. Literally just pointing out that she’s privileged and that I think even she believes the BS she sells her fans.

I don’t remember the secret for JP, just some of the thread, which went in a few directions. One comment thread was about his alcoholism and legal issues, one was about how average all CW stars are, one was about Cass confessing his love to Dean. I don’t even remember which day it was, I’ve missed more of FS this week than usual.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, weird. I haven't heard a think about alcohol and legal stuff, though he does come off as kind of a dude-bro sometimes.

I miss most of them, too. Le sigh.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
He’d gotten pulled over for DUI (maybe a few times?) when the show was still running, that much I knew about because I had a friend who was a huge JP fan. But after the show I think is when the legal stuff started (he doesn’t seem to have ever gotten in trouble for the DUI incident(s). He owns a bar and started a brawl and beat seven shades of shit out of someone. In the secret thread someone said the victim was actually an employee.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's fucking stupid. Yeesh.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
She isn't REALLY FUCKING GOOD. She's average. There are plenty of singers leagues better than her, but because she bills herself as basically a rags to riches #hardworker, the Swifties who are also largely white girls who wouldn't know hardship if it bit them in the goddamn face, or anything like... IDK, going hungry or actual hard work or whatnot, well. They eat it up. They buy her narrative of #forsmallbusinesses when she owns two personal jets and the personal carbon footprint of large corporations because how dare she fly with the peasants.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, good to know that all white girls live a life of ease. Fuck's sake. Get a grip. You sound like so much sour grapes bullshite it's embarrassing.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
+1

She IS a good singer/songwriter. She's not at all bad at what she does. But because the system is so gamed in her favor, she was promoted early on at a very high level, and that did give her a leg up that other songwriters didn't get.

If she really understood what "punk" means, she'd know that it means that the artists who are most popular, and the ones who are truly the best at what they do is a Venn diagram with a little bit of overlap but not as much as people who only pay attention to big pop stars think.

Most popular has NEVER equaled "best."

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You'd probably make headway with your argument if you weren't so damn abrasive about it.

It's hilarious because I mostly agree with your post (except possibly the "hard work" part... hardship is a different beast from hard work. Just because you have fewer challenges doesn't mean you aren't working hard).

But people don't enjoy seeing their favorites bashed, whether or not you have a point.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I think AYRT is probably spot on that most Swifties have had to do any hard work in addition to not facing hardship. Most are white middle class women who enjoyed relatively lower debt from school loans and have well off parents to co-sign for new cars and houses. They’re not paying 70% of their low income for rent, they’re paying 20% of their above median income for their mortgage with the added security of mommy and daddy to bail them out if they ever need it. Which they typically don’t because they start out ahead.

There’s nothing wrong with that and there’s nothing wrong with Swift herself. But it’s laughable how those privileged young women revere an even more privileged woman for fighting adversity to become so successful or how she’s a rags to riches story.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I found it hilarious when, a few months back, so many people I know who go on about privilege and white feminism were treating the criticism of her, a fantastically famous and successful rich white woman, like a social justice issue. My FB feed had full-on treatises defending her, treating her like some downtrodden vicitm of pervasive discrimination, from folks who usually say we need to "de-center whiteness" and that white women need to step aside and make space for BIPOC women.