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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-27 01:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #6322 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
She seems oblivious to her privilege but I may be getting that more from her fans than from her. Every twentysomething young woman I know is a Swifty and they talk about her like she’s some sort of god who had to overcome monumental adversities. But she’s just the white daughter of millionaires who paid out the ass to make her into a billionaire. That’s not really anything special. Even the whole drama about the masters of her recordings was nothing but a money making scheme. Her parents sold their rights and instead of buying the masters she vilified the owner and re-recorded everything to make even more money off the songs she’d been making money off of for years. And somehow sold it to her fans that it was a case of the little guy triumphing over Evil Big Business. The same business her parents funded to set up her career. She was never at any kind of disadvantage at any point in her life, she was literally born a millionaire \_(°•°)_/

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Afaik she tried to buy the masters but they only would have sold them to her if she had signed for an additional 6 albums which, quite frankly, is pretty sucky if you want to divorce from a label.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Also the guy that ended up buying them was someone she considered a personal enemy, right?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Her parents owned a stake in the masters and sold them for millions 🙄

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Do you always blame people for the things their parents do?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Do you really not see how she benefits here? Benefits from selling the stake, benefits from the publicity of fighting to buy the masters, and benefits from re-recording and rereleasing her entire catalog that had already made her millions as an individual and millions for her parents before selling their stake.

I gotta admit, I’m impressed with the shrewdness. But I’m even more impressed by how blindingly stupid her fans are about the whole thing.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
And this is why Hammurabi said that if you build a shoddy house and it kills the owner's son, then your son should be put to death.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, they didn't want to sell them to her unless she agreed to stay with them.

No, it's not an epic tale of the little guy triumphing over Big Business, but I have a hard time seeing anything wrong with what she did.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Taylor was signed to RCA Records at 13 years old with an artist development deal.

Sony/ATV Publishing House hired her as their youngest-ever songwriter at 14.

In 2005 she was scouted by Scott Borschetta who was planning to start his own record label, and when he did, she was one of the first artists he signed. Taylor's father purchased a 3% stake in the company shortly thereafter. Wiki estimates Scott Swift's investment was approximately $120K, though I've seen estimates as high as $500K.

In 2018, Variety reported that Swift's catalog constituted around 80 percent of Big Machine's revenue.

When Borschetta sold Big Machine, Scott Swift's share of the buyout was approximately $15M.

But she’s just the white daughter of millionaires who paid out the ass to make her into a billionaire. That’s not really anything special.

So by your logic, it sounds like everyone whose well-off parents pay for their post secondary education also deserve to have their years of hard work, skill, and determination dismissed out of hand.

My parents are working poor and I've never received any financial support from them because there was never any to give, but I would never dismiss someone else's skill and hard-earned achievements simply because they had the good fortune to have fewer barriers in their way than I did.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-27 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Since money can sometimes buy success, people think that the presence of money always indicates that the success was bought.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
In this case, her success was bought. Her parents paid for literally every “opportunity” she ever had. They also profited from it directly and indirectly and she did separately from them. She’s a good pop singer! But the point was that she and her fans are oblivious to her insane privilege.

nayrt

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
No one's "dismissing" her abilities or work. However, having parents with the kind of wealth to pour hundreds of thousands into getting you set up for success is a MASSIVELY privileged position that the vast majority of people do not have. And pretending that wealth and privilege aren't a big part of who gets to succeed in life and who does not (yes, including expensive college education that doesn't leave one with crushing debt) is a denial of reality. Being subsidized by the bank of mom and dad doesn't negate the achievements of anyone. However, it absolutely matters. A lot.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I don't think they're saying that it doesn't matter. I think they're just saying that the talent, a "something special," is still there.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
And pretending that wealth and privilege aren't a big part of who gets to succeed in life and who does not

Ehhhhh. I know plenty of people whose parents paid for them to go to college and they just partied their time away and never put much effort in and now that they've graduated, they can't land a decent job because they pretty much squandered the opportunity they were given.

Meanwhile I know a lot of other people who came from lower-class backgrounds and didn't have the privilege of money but who worked hard in college or trade school and are doing very well for themselves now.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
You…you really don’t think she’s privileged? Cause that’s the whole point of the comment yrt. She’s privileged and pretends she isn’t and her fans scream about how heroic she is for standing up to her enemies (where actually her parents business partners that they profited from).
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
And none of that would have meant jack-shite if she wasn't also REALLY FUCKING GOOD at what she does.

Jayzus, go suck a lemon.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I appreciate you so sincerely for this, just sayin'. <3
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
;)

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
She wasn’t really fucking good though. That’s why Sony was dropping her. And why her parents spent millions to create a record label that was, to start, just for her. And another half million to promote the first album on that label. Which they made a mint from selling years down the line and she became a billionaire by portraying herself as having her masters kept from her.

She’s good. But she’s not the amazing talent her fans make her out to be. She isn’t relatable, but she knows how to portray herself that way. And she’s really fucking good at making herself out to be the victim.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
*rolls eyes*
Yes. Like I said. She's GOOD AT WHAT SHE DOES, including writing songs, singing them, and making a persona people like.

Why's that make you so butt-hurt, Anon? It's just so...silly.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
I’m not butt hurt though? I just said she’s oblivious to her privilege. She wouldn’t have this success or be a billionaire if she hadn’t been born a millionaire. And I think her fans are stupid for buying the “poor average little girl fighting the big evil music producers” BS she sells.

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
She isn't REALLY FUCKING GOOD. She's average. There are plenty of singers leagues better than her, but because she bills herself as basically a rags to riches #hardworker, the Swifties who are also largely white girls who wouldn't know hardship if it bit them in the goddamn face, or anything like... IDK, going hungry or actual hard work or whatnot, well. They eat it up. They buy her narrative of #forsmallbusinesses when she owns two personal jets and the personal carbon footprint of large corporations because how dare she fly with the peasants.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-04-28 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, good to know that all white girls live a life of ease. Fuck's sake. Get a grip. You sound like so much sour grapes bullshite it's embarrassing.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
+1

She IS a good singer/songwriter. She's not at all bad at what she does. But because the system is so gamed in her favor, she was promoted early on at a very high level, and that did give her a leg up that other songwriters didn't get.

If she really understood what "punk" means, she'd know that it means that the artists who are most popular, and the ones who are truly the best at what they do is a Venn diagram with a little bit of overlap but not as much as people who only pay attention to big pop stars think.

Most popular has NEVER equaled "best."

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You'd probably make headway with your argument if you weren't so damn abrasive about it.

It's hilarious because I mostly agree with your post (except possibly the "hard work" part... hardship is a different beast from hard work. Just because you have fewer challenges doesn't mean you aren't working hard).

But people don't enjoy seeing their favorites bashed, whether or not you have a point.

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