[ SECRET POST #6324 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6324 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

+1, this is a big thing in all kinds of bookbinding and papercraft! I'm not in the US or Europe but resources generally mention the size of the paper. Maybe they got a file that was already fully formatted to US letter or legal size then tried to print it on A4? Is that what "a typeset" means?

[(Anonymous)]

I *think* by typeset they mean they’re having someone else format the documents for them. And I got the impression it isn’t just a plain text thing, that they’re also getting specialized text like chapter headings, maybe some artwork, things like that.
Binding is a little weird when it comes to paper because you print onto sheets, not pages. The sheets make leaves. How many total pages you have will determine how many leaves and therefore how many sheets that you have. The pages are what the reader reads; the leaves are what the typesetter formats, the sheets are what the binder sews. Typically the typesetter and binder are the same person and there’s no reason to outsource that work. It’s super easy using Adobe to do the printing layout. There’s no shortage of free fonts out there and any money spent outside of the materials would be better spent toward art commissions. Then the binder would fit that in however they want (top of the chapter pages, as one side of a leaf, inline with the text, or across the end pages).

The tricky bit with sheets is that usually we all buy paper that’s twice the size of the sheets we print. The reason being is that the grain needs to go head to tail on your finished leaves. But you’re going to print 90° to that. So you buy paper twice the size and cut it in half. Then you print on the half sheets and you’ll have the correct grain direction. This is another reason why it’s better to do your own printing; outsourced printers want to print efficiently and as a binder you need to print correctly, which is the opposite of efficient. If you don’t print correctly, the pages of your book will get all crumpled and wrinkly towards the spine and the pages won’t do that nice little puffy billowing draping thing they do in nice books.

[(Anonymous)]

SA I meant to mention that in binding you also make textblocks or noteblocks or folios or cards or notecards (all the same thing). Basically, you print ten sheets. This doesn’t mean pages 1-10, it’s probably going to be one blank page, one partially filled page, and eight pages of the first chapter but not pages 1-8. You put them in order and fold them, then do the next ten sheets, fold, and keep going. Once you have all of your blocks together and ordered, you see them together. The methods all do pretty much the same thing, you sew the first and then incorporate the next on top of it and basically daisy chain them. It’s so much easier than it sounds!

Sheets become leaves that are sewn into blocks to make a book that has pages.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

It's exactly what happened 😁

Most of the ficbinders are from the US, they are going to format the text of the fanfiction for a US letter size, it's obvious but it completly escaped my brain.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I hate how letter size is just ALMOST THE SAME but not

*not a bookbinder but a designer so I know the struggle

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Are you printing four pages on A4? Or are you cutting the A4 in half horizontally and printing 4 pages on each half (total 8 pages)?

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[(Anonymous)]

When I print my pages, I select the option print in booklet and recto/verso. That way, it automatically print 4 A5 pages on an A4 sheet.

A5 is the size of an A4 paper cut in 2.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that’s not the right way to do it. I’m sorry. Please save yourself future heartache and at least learn about grain direction. If you’re going to the trouble to do all this because you want a beautiful copy of your favourite fics, you are going to be very disappointed in a short time to discover how important grain direction is to what you’re attempting.