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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-03 07:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #6328 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6328 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02. [SPOILERS for Civil War (2024)]





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03. [SPOILERS for Ghost of Tsushima]




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04. [SPOILERS for Detective Conan]
[WARNING for discussion of incest]




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05. [WARNING for discussion of sex with a minor/statutory rape]




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06. [WARNING for discussion of domestic violence]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of JKR/transphobia]




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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-05-04 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
One of my neighbors has a Harry Potter bumper sticker. My local high school had a Harry Potter-themed event recently. People who aren’t online don’t think about J.K. Rowling and transphobia, they just think about a series of mostly average books that became incredibly popular for some reason.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
That is a good important point. I would wager a very large percentage of people just out there in the world enjoying th books have no clue about internet discourse or anything about the author as a person. I think deeply entranched people like OP forget there are fans like that out there.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
My friend, this not 2005 any longer. Everyone is on the Internet now. Internet life and offline life are no longer separate things, there is only life-life, and some of that is online and some is not, but everyone's life is online nowadays. Also, ya old.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I mean I can think of several people in my family that enjoy reading thise books with their kids and would have no clue about the political drama of the author.

And not everyone is living online. You are projecting your own experience onto everyone.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Clearly a lie.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
This is true. It's the reason the term "chronically online" exists. If that was just the normal 2024 experience, we wouldn't need a term for it.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, not unless we just wanted to try and score internet points or derail an argument. But nobody around here would act in such bad faith, I'm sure.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

I agree with ayrt tbh, a lot of my coworkers are casually fans of HP, including people I've seen speak respectfully about trans issues whenever it comes up, never misgender trans coworkers, and even some trans coworkers themselves. It's a big part of pop culture, and some people don't know or care about the author's political views, many of them haven't engaged with HP or JKR more than casually since they were kids. I've also met plenty of people who can't enjoy it anymore, but I don't take it as a hint that someone is transphobic if they simply like a very popular franchise.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Online means many things. There's a leftist bubble many people exist in of JKR is Evil Transphobe. There's a far right bubble of Gay People are evil. There's a lot of middle ground. It depends what sources you follow. Most people don't obsess over this in the real world unless it affects them such as boy wanting to use the girls changing rooms in school.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
There has never been a case of a boy wanting to use the girls' changing rooms at a school.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-05 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Lie.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-04 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a really weird thing to say! Yes, everyone is on the internet now, but not everybody is interested in celebrity gossip or is in fandom. If you are, then yes, you will very likely have heard about JKR's transphobic posting and activism. If you're not particularly interested, though, why would you ever hear about this?

Not everyone who likes Harry Potter is what I would call "fannish" (because Harry Potter is pop culture at this point), and not everyone who is fannish does fandom by using big social media websites. So yeah, you and I are on Fandom Secrets -- we are VERY tapped into this fannish community and it is impossible for us to not know about JKR's transphobia. But that is a very narrow view of what a "Harry Potter fan" looks like, based entirely what Harry Potter fans in OUR online spaces look like.

For everyone else, it is very possible to casually like Harry Potter or have some Harry Potter merch you use and have NO idea what's going on with JKR's Twitter feed, even when you use the internet every single day! Even if you're on Twitter every day! JKR even makes it into the news for her transphobic opinions, sometimes, but the news media massively downplays the extent of her transphobia and just how obsessive she is about this issue. It's just really easy to be a Harry Potter fan and not know how bad she is about these issues, even if you're decently tapped into the wider world. It's going to become less that way over time as news spreads, but some people just really don't care what the author of a popular children's book series is saying on Twitter.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-05 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol now they're "mostly average books". You guys and your revisionism!
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-05-06 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn’t one of the people who disliked them, so I can’t say they’re bad books. I just thought they were kinda okay.