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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-07 08:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #6332 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6332 ⌋

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Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
We need to start teaching "how to be wrong" in schools. Everybody is wrong about something, at some point, especially call-out-anon, but so few people know how to handle that. They throw tantrums, they dig their heels in, they try to find a way to carry on as if it had never happened so they don't have to admit it. However, admitting being wrong is healthy. Both personally and for the wider society, but so very few people in our age of increasing self righteousness know how to be wrong, how to handle making mistakes, how to gracefully accept it. I think we need to start teaching it in schools, since parents clearly won't. BICBW.

Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
+100000

Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
YOU'RE WRONG, NONNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(but seriously, agreed... teaching folks it's okay to be wrong is right up there with teaching folks it's okay to fail at stuff. You never grow if you don't learn from your mistakes.)

Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking as a teacher, it is taught in schools. Then the kids get offended and their parents come in to yell at us that we’re the ones who are wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I always wonder how skills like this would be taught. As it is, we already have enough issues agreeing on things like how to teach basic reading skills. I also feel like teaching this in a way that would involve some sort of ranking (not necessarily a letter grade) could end up making things worse.

Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
What's interesting is that, when it comes to basic reading skills, we do know what works. All the evidence points to phonics.

But, because people have a hard time admitting they're wrong; and because people especially have a hard time admitting they're wrong when it means that a political opponent may have been right, we still have a bunch of school systems using variations of the whole word method.

Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this, but I also think it would be most effective if paired with "how to dispute someone's point constructively." So often, even when I understand why someone is receiving hostility for something they said, I think, "The response that person is getting does not leave any space for them to back down, concede the point, or apologize." That doesn't mean they aren't responsible for their bad take. They are. But some ways of disputing statements are a whole lot more effective and constructive than others.

Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I think this lesson should be paired with teaching people to think critically. They naturally go together.

Re: What are your non fandom secrets.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-08 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
This plus critical thinking plus empathy should be standard. Also how to shut down bullies as a group and/or not feed a troll.