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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-17 05:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #6342 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6342 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-05-18 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
People like that have always existed, but they do seem awfully abundant these days. I'm not sure what's driving it, because it seemed like it used to have a religious righteousness bent and now, though that still exists, many just seem to think that they have some moral authority because they are judgmental.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-18 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
To me it’s the same conservative religious thought line just repackaged, often unknowingly I think, in a fiction and fandom way. Thou cannot think of sinful thoughts lest thee be evil and bad, that kind of thing which ultimately makes me feel slightly sad for the people that behave this way. Not enough to help them, they make their beds as soon as they start harassing other people, but I do hope many of them manage to unlearn it and find a healthier brain space for their own sake.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-18 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's important to remember that religion is man-made.

These are human impulses. They don't come from an external source; they come from within us.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-18 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
DA

To a certain extent, you've got a point, but while religion is "man-made," it wasn't invented by the person spouting bullshit at you. As long as religious adults think it's moral to browbeat, indoctrinate, and lie to children, you're going to have people whose ideas about right and wrong were forced on them from outside. Could they throw it off? Maybe. But how responsible are they for having those ideas? Often, with religion, I find that the people I really want to punch aren't around to confront. The ones that are alive now are hiding behind the proclamations of a book that was cobbled together about 1,700 years ago. And often regurgitating American additions to it that are half a century out of date or more.

I mean, yes: humans can drive themselves nuts with guilt, shame, and fear of evildoing without the benefit of monotheism. It seems like scrupulosity OCD can latch onto pretty much any ideology at all, and we need ways of pushing back against overzealous fanaticism that don't rely on assuming the self-righteous whoever that's bullying people is Christian. But a lot of the specific fighting around whether people are "allowed" to think and write from their hearts, online, or all of that needs to be policed and censored from outside with social aggression, just reeks to me of religious intolerance in stealth mode. Religion's lost the social license to just assert "our magic book forbids what you're doing, so you ought to be punished," but going "your writing [ton of stuff the church would nix on account of its being sinful] is HURTING people, that's so IMMORAL of you" often seems to me like a baldfaced attempt to get liberals onboard with the same damn persecution and censorship agenda. Think about it.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-05-18 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what's driving it
a lack of more diverse community (i think fandoms tend to coeslese into not quite group-think but aligned perspectives let's say) that would challenge, and too much exposure without the wisdom to self-select would be my guess. i think it's a pretty common impulse for people to try to arrange their environment to suit themselves, it's just that now people who want similar environments can find each other much easier and be loud about it.