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(Anonymous) 2024-05-19 12:24 am (UTC)(link)I was born in the period that gets people labeled millenials, and the fact that cell phones (and hybrid machines like Samsung Tablets) became a widespread thing after I was an adult didn't keep me from getting attached to being able to internet whenever I wanted.
Social gatherings online were different, subtly or overtly hostile to attempts at commerce, and not concentrated on business-owned megasites, but they were certainly not "nonexistent." There weren't sites promoting "check in with your offline friends and relatives every fifteen seconds and livetweet everything you do," until Facebook came along, but style of social media tied people down more directly to their offline life, while a lot of the places to socialize that preceded it encouraged people to make new connections based on similar interests. For people who had plenty of social overlap with others in their offline life, the lure of that was fairly modest, but for people who were less able to find their people in person, the internet often became the place where they'd voluntarily spend their discretionary time. I don't think I fell into either extreme, but the story being told about "online life didn't use to displace in-person interaction" is very much oversimplifying the nuances. The captain of the football team may not have known how to operate a computer, when I was in high school, but the sci-fi club, the theater kids, several of the more intellectually inclined countercultures, and a bunch of teenagers with chronic illnesses or long term disabilities had set down deep roots and emotional investments in cyberspace.
As for ubiquitous free porn, I'm not sure why you equate that with the existence of a paid service. PornHub, of course, is more modern, but the porn I found when I went exploring as a twelve year old was plentiful and much more hardcore than what turns up in lightweb search results today. The first dozen sites or so were competing for clicks by showcasing BDSM, underage, and bestiality. And I think my search term was something like "sex." XD; Video was pixellated and slow-loading, but ... Avenue Q the musical came out with the song The Internet Is For Porn in 2003, and they really did mean porn. Not "erotica, tasteful artistic nudes, etc." though the internet had all of those, too.
What I've heard from Gen Y people is not that they want less of what I loved about the internet. It's that they suffered from a fuckton of social media tying your online presence to your legal identity - no one likes the way schools, businesses, and governments decided to threaten people (and kids in particular) with ruined lives for posting the wrong thing on the internet. I remember when universities started withdrawing scholarships from incoming students based on finding pictures of partying, drunk seniors online and figuring out who they were. I remember the police gleefully bragging about busting people who'd inadvertently provided evidence of using forbidden substances. I remember when adults started using spyware on their kids phones and trying to find their social media presence and basically prying everywhere else they could invade their offspring's privacy. I remember internet pseudonymity failures that outed gay kids to homophobic communities and families, and the scandal when it turned out that school-provided computers were watching and listening to students in their rooms at home. Most of the things people miss about "before all that" have to do with the sort of stuff XKCD confronts in cartoon 137 - Dreams. They look back with envy at a time when no one was humiliated by their parents or peers on YouTube *in front of potentially millions of people.* But the social anxiety, self-consciousness, and fear is not an inevitable result of the internet being easier to reach than it was. It's the predictable result of an all-out assault on privacy and free access to information, online, that's been going on for decades.