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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-22 06:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #6347 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-05-22 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

But I don't understand how we live in a society where broadcast execs (or advertisers) continue to perpetuate irrelevant language taboos like this.

Disney made the most, for years, out of "oh look, Robin Williams can say 'shit' once in our movie, it's so daring and modern" and in fact, there is no reason for 21st century adults to tolerate anything being "bleeped out."

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I really don't think I agree with this.

I think it's fine to believe that there are some words, concepts, etc that are rude and coarse and not appropriate for all situations and circumstances. I don't think that's necessarily an illiberal restriction on speech. I don't think it's incompatible with a belief in free speech. Speech norms are OK, Actually. Now obviously those norms should not be punitive, and it should be easy for people who want to access content with swear words etc to do so.

But the basic idea that, you know, it's OK to say that some kinds of content are not appropriate for OTA broadcast primetime TV - I think that idea is totally fine and reasonable. And I think it has pretty general support from people.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
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"Not appropriate everywhere" is something we'd probably agree on. And I might be persuadable, but I don't currently see any reason to have words adults use banned from television.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
A better-handled watershed might help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watershed_(broadcasting)#United_States
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-05-23 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
because disney still wants to market it at times kids can hear, because despite its r rating, it knows under 18s will still be influenced by marketing and want to get it on streaming where none of this matters.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like this is a very English-centric way of looking at things, because there are plenty of languages that have words that are considered rude to use in actual conversation but they don't bleep them out in shows or avoid using them at all. We're the weird ones in that sense.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be curious which countries aren't afraid of putting this on television, because Americans get so fussed over it, TBF.
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[personal profile] fred_mouse 2024-05-25 04:23 am (UTC)(link)

My guess is that you could get away with it in Australia.