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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-31 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #6356 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6356 ⌋

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07. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia/JKR/the usual]




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(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Well, look, at the end of the day neither of us is actually capable of discerning the ethical beliefs and behavior of every member of the human race.

My view is that people do things for a wide array of complicated, often contradictory reasons and that one of those reasons is, you know, actually disliking it when people do evil shit. But if you just want to be a cynic and talk about how a concern for justice is nothing but a cloak for self-interest, I can't stop you and neither of us can really disprove the other.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's not self-interest, not nakedly. It's rage, vengeance, desperation. People carve out exceptions for themselves -- "it's different when I do it." This is reality, not cynicism. All you have to do is look around you, and you'll see it: the ones who are fine with rape, murder, and torture if it's done to Bad People. They call all of it "justice," and they believe it, because that's how they feel, sincerely. They mock or insult anyone who tries to argue that it's wrong.

I thought as you when I was young, but no more. People are terrible. All they need is an excuse.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
just look at all the feminists being quiet about jewish women being raped in israel and in gaza. they are okaying it and not speaking up about it.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
DA

You know, I wish this didn't ring true to me. But the gloating in leftist spaces over how various men who have been jailed for violence against women or children are going to be raped in jail just broke my ability to see those self-righteous people as actually committed to a world where no one is raped for revenge or in this paper-thin excuse that it will keep them from doing bad things in the future.

I don't think "people" are terrible. But a lot of ones who think they're good really seem to believe some people deserve be raped, tortured, and murdered. And "it's fine, because we think the people who should be victimized are the ones who weren't historically victimized!" just sounds so unconvincing to me.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-01 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
+3

A disturbingly loud part of the online left isn't looking to make the world a better place where there's little to no suffering, they want acceptable targets they can hate without pushback.