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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-06-10 06:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #6366 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-06-10 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Taylor Swift seems like a strange choice for this. She's very standardly beautiful.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-10 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
She is also tiny.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-10 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
She's also 5'11" and has long bones, so her proportions naturally look leaner. But she is very thin. This photo actually makes her look less thin than she usually appears. She's an odd choice for a body positivity role model, there are a lot of women I would have put ahead of her given that she is the dictionary definition of conventionally "perfect proportions" thin woman

(Anonymous) 2024-06-10 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Today I learned Taylor Swift is the same height as my husband. And one of my favorite YouTubers.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I mean... Taylor Swift would be a bad choice for ME for a body positivity role model (I'm a short, fat dude, about as far from her as it gets). But for someone who, as OP stated themselves to be, is very slim, I totally get why she's THAT PERSON'S choice. OP is small but has two things that they see reflected in tswift, tswift is confident showing off those parts of her body... why shouldn't a normal person with a similar body type look at her and feel better about their own?

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
All of this

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well put, and I think so, too.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Why should body positivity only be for certain people with certain body types?

Is the idea to get rid of the hierarchy, or to just flip the positions of the people on it?

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I have wondered about this for over a decade.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
They picked a really uninformative name. It's self love for fat people, but even saying "fat" makes the folks who probably need "you're okay the way you are" messages the most feel attacked. Granted, I have no idea how many people have wandered in hoping for body positivity for any other body type and quietly shown themselves out again.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Part of the trouble is that "you're okay the way you are" often becomes "you're better than other people because of the way you are;" and any group that forms around a particular self-image inevitably develops an us vs them nature.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
She's an odd choice for a body positivity role model

Thin women can still have some pretty intense insecurity about their bodies, and the full-figured women that are often held up as body positivity role models often don't really do much for us, because it's like comparing apples to oranges. My body is nothing like that in any way, so it's not something I feel at all comforted or validated by.

What's comforting to me is seeing women with a similar body type to mine. In my case that means even slimmer than Taylor, but with a short, boxy torso.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. I have always been very petite with no real curves to speak of and it gets tiring to have people always go "oh, but you're so skinny, what could you possibly have to be insecure about?"

I mean, I don't know, the fact that I'm in my 40s and people assume that I'm a high schooler because I'm so small and non-busty/curvy?

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
DA

But agreed. People have lots of reasons to be self-conscious and "body positivity" is the polite word for Fat Advocacy. That's a narrow interest that happens to include a lot of people who were traumatized by a specific kind of social humiliation, but it's really not suited to addressing the fact that most people in the industrialized world are uncomfortable with their bodies.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-12 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
"body positivity" is the polite word for Fat Advocacy.

No it's not. Also, your fatphobia is showing.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-11 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
She's also on the record as having had an eating disorder. If seeing her like this helps anon, what's the big deal? Skinny, conventionally attractive women don't magically not have body issues.