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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-06-22 03:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #6378 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Capaldi could have worked without Clara and the other thing which eventually completely trashed the show beyond recovery. And one of the unrepentant wankers from Little Britain whose antics in that show basically primed the pump for the Tories' attack on disabled people. It is sad that Capaldi's run was ruined by literally, not figuratively, everything except Capaldi himself. But there is no saving it.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
the other thing which eventually completely trashed the show beyond recovery.

What other thing?

And one of the unrepentant wankers from Little Britain whose antics in that show basically primed the pump for the Tories' attack on disabled people.

I don't care for Little Britain at all but it seems a little beyond the pale to blame him for the Tories' attacks on disabled people or to argue that no TV show with him in it could possibly be good.

I'm not the biggest fan of Capaldi's run but IMO it easily could have been good. I just don't like the way that it was written and directed on the whole, basically.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Those LB sketches with his "disabled" character faking disability when in view was actually cited in the 2010 election campaign itself by the Tories as a reason to get tough on "scroungers" as they implied that was basically every disabled person in the land. Yes. I blame him. I had friends who died because of the Tories war on the disabled. Don't try an exculpate him in those deaths. His sketches primed the social pump for that, sowed the seed of the later bigotry.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not defending Matt Lucas.

I am saying that he is not solely or primarily responsible for the Tory campaigns against disabled people, and that his presence alone does not make a TV program unwatchable crap.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It does for me. I don't like watching people whose idea of comedy led to my friends dying.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I sincerely doubt it was a single comedy sketch that convinced the Tories to run their campaign, and convinced others to support it.

It's bizarre that you're blaming a comedian more than the politicians, as if saying, "the TV made me do it" is enough to remove responsibility for someone's actions.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Anybody who knows anything about the Tory Gov knows that they can easily hate and ruin the lives of people with disabilities without the influence of a single, barely relevant in the past decade comedy show.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
DA
I second this.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Written, directed, casted, yeah, apart from the writing, direction, casting, acting, production values, apart from all of that, it is gold.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not agree that every aspect of the show during the Capaldi years was bad. I think the casting was genuinely really good on the whole. Clara is a fine character played by a good actress. Her dynamic with 12 was, in fact, good. That was not the problem with Capaldi's run.

And even the writing and directing, I don't think it was utter crap. I think it was imperfect, and flawed, and definitely not to my taste. But it's way, way, way better than the worst eras of the show.

And I'm still curious what "the other thing which eventually completely trashed the show beyond recovery" was meant to reference.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-22 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
This is, "rap and heavy metal make kids violent satanists" level.