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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-07-27 02:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #6413 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6413 ⌋

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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Nayrt but are you trolling? HOW are you this up your own arse.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] ariakas 2024-07-29 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Haha yeah that was mostly tongue-in-cheek. I figure when someone is dramatically grandstanding about my having "attempted to deny" their "blorbos" that's the level of the conversation we're at.

I engage with fanfiction the same way I engage with other fiction, personally, while they have "zero desire" to engage with fanfiction that "makes them in any way uncomfortable". And that includes characters they project onto doing anything they don't understand or enjoy. Kudos for not engaging with other fiction that way, but treating fanfiction like junk food means that's all you'll ever get out of it, yeah? I'd offer that there is similar catharsis to be found in fanfiction that aims slightly higher, though. If you ever feel so inclined.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - No babe, this ain't it, sorry. You've got some of the right materials, but you're putting them together so badly.

BTW, idk if you realize what a blorbo is, cuz you cant deny someone has a favorite character they care a lot about. That's an emotional reality for them. Insisting otherwise is some overstepping shit that doesnt even make sense.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] ariakas 2024-07-29 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, if you want a sincere answer, yes: I know what a blorbo is, I never "denied" that thread OP cares about a character or projects onto them or is used for their comfort, I pointed out that that isn't actually the nature of the character, the character isn't their hug blanket, it is a fictional representation of a human, and does not need to conform entirely to the OP's perspective and do only things that make them comfortable.

Honestly? What set me - and I'm assuming a lot of the other people in the thread - off was this:

fanfic involves a high level of identifying/relating to the characters

Because, no. It doesn't. Nothing about fanfiction requires this, and furthermore, nothing about identifying/relating to a character requires that one never feel uncomfortable about their actions, which is what OP implies by this statement.

While I'm glad OP clarified that they don't treat all fiction this way, there are a lot of people - myself included - who've noticed this attitude becoming more and more pervasive, and rapidly devolving into "if this makes me uncomfortable, it's wrong" --> "it's wrong, therefore the person who wrote it is bad" --> "bad people deserve to be punished" --> harassment, per one of the next post's secrets.

(It also just makes for really shitty storytelling, and I'm a fan of good storytelling, myself. Even in fanfiction. But that's a matter of taste; I won't take up with OP over that one. Yes there has always been fiction like this, but don't drag the entirety of transformative work down with it by stating that it has to be like this, that it necessarily "involves" it.)